Teaching on Calling on the Name of the Lord

[Ohio]

Originally Posted by Evangelical

Don't let the words "born again" make you think that it must occur after birth. John the Baptist was born again before birth.

To be born again is a work of God not a work of man, so it can happen whenever God chooses to do it:

Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God. (John 1:13)

Being born again means spiritual birth. It is possible for there to be a very short span of time between the physical birth and the spiritual birth. For example, John the Baptist was "born again" in the womb, as he was filled with the Spirit from birth. Unlike Christ, John was a sinner like you or I, that needed to be "born again" just like Nicodemus did. The thing is, unlike Nicodemus, John the baptist was born again as a baby, not as an adult.

If you think that the born again experience must occur at a certain age in a person's life, what you are doing is overlaying a human concept onto Jesus's words to Nicodemus. Jesus simply said "you must be born again". He did not condition that on a person's age, or condition etc. It occurs whenever the Spirit of God chooses to regenerate a person's inward man. It is up to God not man.

It is possible for a child to be born again before the age of accountability. John the Baptist also shows that to be born again does not require an "age of being able to make decisions". John had no choice in the matter of being filled with the Spirit from birth or not.

I believe infant baptism is not scriptural, nor is it genuine baptism. However, I would not say it has no spiritual significance. Prayers to God are offered, the congregation prays and asks God to do certain things in the child's life. I believe God honours those prayers, particularly if they are offered in a genuine way, and are not just a mere ritual. I see in the life of people who were only infant baptised, that they are genuine followers of Christ just as much as people who were baptised as an adult. This indicates they have been born again.

I'm thinking at this time that ole Evangelical might need a new name.

Perhaps "EvenJelly."

And, btw, your spellings are not American English, which probably explains why you have displayed such a spiteful attitude towards our country in some of your posts.

[Evangelical]

Originally Posted by Ohio

I'm thinking at this time that ole Evangelical might need a new name.

Perhaps "EvenJelly."

And, btw, your spellings are not American English, which probably explains why you have displayed such a spiteful attitude towards our country in some of your posts.

You just said I have a spiteful attitude towards America because I did not use the American spelling. That is hilarious. Your comment only makes you look like silly. I have moved around and picked up different spelling habits from here and there (England/ US).

[Ohio]

Originally Posted by Evangelical

You just said I have a spiteful attitude towards America because I did not use the American spelling. Your comment only makes you look like silly. I have moved around and picked up different spelling habits from here and there (England/ US).

No, I did not say that. Not exactly.

Your poor attitude towards the US has been evident in dozens of your posts. (Remember you said that the US is now Sodom.)

I only commented that your spelling indicates you are probably not an American, which helps to explain your animosity.

All that being said, I do think your attitude towards God's children, outside of the LC movement, is worse than your attitude towards the US.

But, hey, we all understand, too much Lee will do that to you.

[Evangelical]

Originally Posted by Ohio

No, I did not say that. Not exactly.

Your poor attitude towards the US has been evident in dozens of your posts. (Remember you said that the US is now Sodom.)

I only commented that your spelling indicates you are probably not an American, which helps to explain your animosity.

All that being said, I do think your attitude towards God's children, outside of the LC movement, is worse than your attitude towards the US.

But, hey, we all understand, too much Lee will do that to you.

That is not animosity towards America, that is "animosity" towards countries which have gay marriage. In my previous posts I also said countries in Europe were Sodom. So did Lee. I believe England is Sodom as well, and much of Europe. That was all in my posts, but you only heard "Evangelical hates America". I don't hate or love any country. I only disagree with their unbiblical laws and beliefs, and equate that to the prophetic cities in the bible such as Sodom or Tyre. America is also Tyre by the way, as any country built on mammon is. America is also a kind of "promised land", or "new Jerusalem".