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Old 06-13-2017, 11:38 AM   #1
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There will never be an "end."
Ain't it the truth. It doesn't matter what side of the aisle, fence, or wall you find yourself, nothing ends it. They're still beating on both Bush and Obama. All the way back to Carter, Nixon, JFK and even earlier.

It never ends.
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Old 06-13-2017, 11:52 AM   #2
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Ain't it the truth. It doesn't matter what side of the aisle, fence, or wall you find yourself, nothing ends it. They're still beating on both Bush and Obama. All the way back to Carter, Nixon, JFK and even earlier.

It never ends.
Well ... I must say there has been a slowdown on Bush-Bashing since Trump emerged on the political scene.

Can you imaging the feeding frenzy over Trump's tax returns? To me the whole thing is a witch hunt. If there are problems, doesn't the IRS have enough agents for them?

Where was the special prosecutor for Benghazi, Fast and Furious, Hillary's emails, IRS targeting Tea Party, etc.?

They found NO collusion with Russia, but can't stop now, "we'll just have to keep looking until we find something."

Meanwhile, with all the leaks in WashDC, I'm buying more stock in Kimberly-Clark, which makes "Depends."

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Old 06-13-2017, 05:01 PM   #3
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I think Trump is innocent in all this. He never colluded with Russia, and everything is a media exaggeration. There are actually no solid facts, just rumors and innuendo that media makes into a story that sounds worse than it really is.

Comey's testimony looked bad on Comey because he admitted that Trump was not under investigation, and the President did not issue him a direct command or order, just expressed a hope. Comey broke the protocol by not consulting the right people, that makes himself look bad.
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Old 06-15-2017, 07:28 AM   #4
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Time for Ohio to write off the Southern Baptists as liberals since on Wednesday they formally condemned the political movement known as the "alt-right," in a national meeting.
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Old 06-15-2017, 08:34 AM   #5
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Time for Ohio to write off the Southern Baptists as liberals since on Wednesday they formally condemned the political movement known as the "alt-right," in a national meeting.
I suppose they reject their white supremacist founding too? But I'm glad they've finally come to their senses.

Still, I've been told by Southern Baptist family that I don't belong in the SB church. My sister was told by members of the SB church she's been a member of for decades that she can't wear pants, and has to be a republican. They must not have gotten the memo yet, that the SBC is now liberal.
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Old 06-16-2017, 03:53 AM   #6
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Time for Ohio to write off the Southern Baptists as liberals since on Wednesday they formally condemned the political movement known as the "alt-right," in a national meeting.
There you go again, using my name in vain.
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Old 06-16-2017, 04:50 AM   #7
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So then, is this the "biggest witch hunt in American history"?

finally a true intersection of Politics and the Church.

You need to put the Salem witch trials into the consideration unless Trump said "US history" in which case they would be excluded. Hard to say "biggest" for a witch hunt that really only encompassed one small town and a couple of teenage girls. But worst, certainly in the running for the worst witch hunt.

McCarthyism certainly comes to mind in the political arena. The Red scare (the second one) with the trial of Alger Hiss comes immediately to mind. As soon as the hearing was over it was portrayed as the biggest witch hunt, and yet had it not been for a junior congressman in his first term (Nixon) they would have dropped the investigation of Hiss, but instead they persisted and convicted him of perjury.

Interestingly, the whole McCarthyism came during Truman's presidency (a democrat) and was waged by the Republicans as a red herring to distract from the policies Truman was trying to enact. Oh the irony, you reap what you sow.

First Truman suffered the biggest witch hunt, now Trump.

As for the allegation of "No evidence of collusion"?! There is clearly evidence of Obstruction of Justice and why would you obstruct the investigation if there was no collusion? Nixon was not impeached for the break in, he was impeached for the cover up, which was obstruction of justice.
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Old 06-16-2017, 03:59 PM   #8
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One other point that many may not be aware of.

It is generally well known that the only reason the commission continued to investigate Alger Hiss after the first hearing was due to Nixon. But many don't know the reason why Nixon, a junior, freshman congressman, pushed for this.

Nixon had asked Hiss where he went to college, Hiss said "John's Hopkins, and Harvard, and you, I believe went to Whittier?" (Richard Nixon: The Life, by John A Farrel)

That insult was what did Hiss in. Wouldn't it be ironic if some insult from Trump is what does him in?
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