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Old 05-07-2018, 07:48 AM   #1
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Tyrant

“He is pathologically narcissistic and supremely arrogant. He has a grotesque sense of entitlement, never doubting that he can do whatever he chooses. . . . He expects absolute loyalty, but he is incapable of gratitude. The feelings of others mean nothing to him. He has no natural grace, no sense of shared humanity, no decency.”

“a political campaign, complete with a fraudulent display of religious piety, the slandering of opponents, and a grossly exaggerated threat to national security.”

“The prospect of endless winning proves to be a grotesque delusion,”

“Shakespeare wrote about how societies that seem stable go under, in the hands of people who shouldn’t be in power,”

“It is we, the audience, watching it all happening, who are lured into a peculiar form of collaboration,” Greenblatt writes. “Looking out at us from the stage, Richard invites us not only to share his gleeful contempt but also to experience for ourselves what it is to succumb to what we know to be loathsome.”

Quotes from an interesting commentary on Shakespeare's King Richard III
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Tyrant

“He is pathologically narcissistic and supremely arrogant. He has a grotesque sense of entitlement, never doubting that he can do whatever he chooses. . . . He expects absolute loyalty, but he is incapable of gratitude. The feelings of others mean nothing to him. He has no natural grace, no sense of shared humanity, no decency.”

“a political campaign, complete with a fraudulent display of religious piety, the slandering of opponents, and a grossly exaggerated threat to national security.”

“The prospect of endless winning proves to be a grotesque delusion,”

“Shakespeare wrote about how societies that seem stable go under, in the hands of people who shouldn’t be in power,”

“It is we, the audience, watching it all happening, who are lured into a peculiar form of collaboration,” Greenblatt writes. “Looking out at us from the stage, Richard invites us not only to share his gleeful contempt but also to experience for ourselves what it is to succumb to what we know to be loathsome.”

Quotes from an interesting commentary on Shakespeare's King Richard III
Great description of the Obama / Clinton crime families.
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When then independent counsel Ken Starr was investigating Bill Clinton’s various scandals from Whitewater to Filegate and Travelgate, Starr was routinely compared to Inspector Javert, the relentless villain in Les Misérables, who pursued Jean Valjean for stealing a loaf of bread. Mueller is no Javert, who pursued his man for an identified — though minor — crime. He is more comparable to Soviet dictator Joseph Stalin’s secret police chief, Lavrenty Beria. Beria is remembered for inventing charges against Stalin’s enemies. Beria once said, “Show me the man and I’ll find the crime. Mueller has identified Trump as his target and is working like a Stakhanovite to find Trump’s crime.

Mueller’s threat to national security is accomplished, as Judge Ellis alluded to, by lying to the courts, misleading the public, and interfering with the execution of the president’s duties. He is doing far more to damage our national security than the Russians did in their unsuccessful effort to interfere in 2016.

A few examples suffice.

The president is preoccupied with what he characterizes as Mueller’s “witch hunt,” a topic that dominates Trump’s Tweets. He has to deal with juggling his defense team. Former U.S. attorney Joe diGenova was brought on and then departed almost immediately. Ty Cobb, the lawyer trusted with his defense against Mueller’s investigation, was apparently fired because he was cooperating with Mueller to no avail and replaced with Emmett Flood, who reportedly will take a much tougher approach. (Flood, a former Clinton impeachment defense counsel, is known in “Godfather” terms as a “wartime consigliere.”)

Now, Trump and the defense team are trying to deal with Mueller’s threat to subpoena Trump to testify before a grand jury if Trump doesn’t consent to a less formal — but no less dangerous — interrogation. The president is trying to come up with a policy to deal with Russian and Iranian aggression in Syria and with Turkey’s partnership with both to preserve the Assad regime. He apparently isn’t even thinking about the almost seventeen-year war we’re fighting in Afghanistan or the fact that — as our top general in Europe warned Congress in March — that Russia could outmatch and outgun U.S. and NATO forces if war broke out in Europe.

All of that is taking place at the same time Trump is working with South Korean President Moon Jae-in and their respective teams to arrange the coming summit with North Korea’s Kim Jong Un and the release of the American hostages held in North Korea.

Mueller’s investigation is also absorbing Trump’s time he could otherwise spend in renegotiating trade agreements such as NAFTA, dealing personally with allies who are trying to get him to cancel Obama’s nuclear weapons agreement with Iran (Israel’s Netanyahu) or to not cancel it (France’s Macron, Germany’s Merkel, and Britain’s May), and other not-so-minor matters such as talking to China’s Xi Jinping about avoiding a mutual trade war and China’s interference with U.S. flights in Africa near China’s first overseas military base there.

The Mueller problem began as a legal problem with Rosenstein’s too-broad grant of powers to the special counsel. By his Beria-like methods, Mueller has made it into a political problem that no one, especially Rosenstein, seems willing to solve. As Judge Ellis said on Friday, “We don’t want anyone with unfettered power.” But that’s just what we have in Robert Mueller.

Rosenstein needs to mandate that Mueller’s investigation be ended before the November election. If Rosenstein won’t do that, Trump should fire him and hire someone who will.
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After the three perverts Attorney General (and later Governor) Elliot Spitzer, NYC Mayoral hopeful Rep. Anthony Weiner (D-NY), and New York Attorney General Eric Schneiderman have resigned in disgrace, our President from that NY cesspool don't look so bad after all!

Trump Tweet Predicted Schneiderman Demise 4.5 Years Ago

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When then independent counsel Ken Starr was investigating Bill Clinton’s various scandals from Whitewater to Filegate and Travelgate, Starr was routinely compared to Inspector Javert, the relentless villain in Les Misérables, who pursued Jean Valjean for stealing a loaf of bread. Mueller is no Javert, who pursued his man for an identified — though minor — crime. He is more comparable to Soviet dictator Joseph Stalin’s secret police chief, Lavrenty Beria. Beria is remembered for inventing charges against Stalin’s enemies. Beria once said, “Show me the man and I’ll find the crime. Mueller has identified Trump as his target and is working like a Stakhanovite to find Trump’s crime.

Mueller’s threat to national security is accomplished, as Judge Ellis alluded to, by lying to the courts, misleading the public, and interfering with the execution of the president’s duties. He is doing far more to damage our national security than the Russians did in their unsuccessful effort to interfere in 2016.

A few examples suffice.

The president is preoccupied with what he characterizes as Mueller’s “witch hunt,” a topic that dominates Trump’s Tweets. He has to deal with juggling his defense team. Former U.S. attorney Joe diGenova was brought on and then departed almost immediately. Ty Cobb, the lawyer trusted with his defense against Mueller’s investigation, was apparently fired because he was cooperating with Mueller to no avail and replaced with Emmett Flood, who reportedly will take a much tougher approach. (Flood, a former Clinton impeachment defense counsel, is known in “Godfather” terms as a “wartime consigliere.”)

Now, Trump and the defense team are trying to deal with Mueller’s threat to subpoena Trump to testify before a grand jury if Trump doesn’t consent to a less formal — but no less dangerous — interrogation. The president is trying to come up with a policy to deal with Russian and Iranian aggression in Syria and with Turkey’s partnership with both to preserve the Assad regime. He apparently isn’t even thinking about the almost seventeen-year war we’re fighting in Afghanistan or the fact that — as our top general in Europe warned Congress in March — that Russia could outmatch and outgun U.S. and NATO forces if war broke out in Europe.

All of that is taking place at the same time Trump is working with South Korean President Moon Jae-in and their respective teams to arrange the coming summit with North Korea’s Kim Jong Un and the release of the American hostages held in North Korea.

Mueller’s investigation is also absorbing Trump’s time he could otherwise spend in renegotiating trade agreements such as NAFTA, dealing personally with allies who are trying to get him to cancel Obama’s nuclear weapons agreement with Iran (Israel’s Netanyahu) or to not cancel it (France’s Macron, Germany’s Merkel, and Britain’s May), and other not-so-minor matters such as talking to China’s Xi Jinping about avoiding a mutual trade war and China’s interference with U.S. flights in Africa near China’s first overseas military base there.

The Mueller problem began as a legal problem with Rosenstein’s too-broad grant of powers to the special counsel. By his Beria-like methods, Mueller has made it into a political problem that no one, especially Rosenstein, seems willing to solve. As Judge Ellis said on Friday, “We don’t want anyone with unfettered power.” But that’s just what we have in Robert Mueller.

Rosenstein needs to mandate that Mueller’s investigation be ended before the November election. If Rosenstein won’t do that, Trump should fire him and hire someone who will.
I agree. Trump needs to sit down with Mueller, answer his questions and lets finish this thing now before the November elections. And not like those lying crooks in the mafia who plead the fifth.
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I agree. Trump needs to sit down with Mueller, answer his questions and lets finish this thing now before the November elections. And not like those lying crooks in the mafia who plead the fifth.
Like General Flynn did? He was indicted for talking to the FBI. No crime, no collusion, no obstruction, nothing! His only mistake was talking to these snakes.

To use Comey's own words, there is "not one reasonable lawyer" in the country who thinks "Trump needs to sit down with Mueller, answer his questions."

Have you forgotten that Muller supervised John Connelly and Whitey Bulger? You should see the sanitized TV version of the movie Black Mass based on the 2001 book Black Mass: The True Story of an Unholy Alliance Between the FBI and the Irish Mob by Dick Lehr and Gerard O'Neill. Then you'll get to know your beloved, holier than thou, Special Prosecutor Muller.
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Like General Flynn did? He was indicted for talking to the FBI. No crime, no collusion, no obstruction, nothing! His only mistake was talking to these snakes.

To use Comey's own words, there is "not one reasonable lawyer" in the country who thinks "Trump needs to sit down with Mueller, answer his questions."

Have you forgotten that Muller supervised John Connelly and Whitey Bulger? You should see the sanitized TV version of the movie Black Mass based on the 2001 book Black Mass: The True Story of an Unholy Alliance Between the FBI and the Irish Mob by Dick Lehr and Gerard O'Neill. Then you'll get to know your beloved, holier than thou, Special Prosecutor Muller.
Well that explains a lot. Here I was wondering why Trump's lawyers portrayed themselves as interns still trying to get up to speed on the facts and unable to distinguish between fact and opinion. I guess it is because all the reasonable lawyers assume Trump is guilty and therefore would not allow him to talk to Mueller. For a guy that should be keeping his mouth shut Trump sure does talk a lot.

The problem I see with Trump not talking to Mueller is that Mueller would then be forced to use his public comments, which obviously creates a problem for Trump since they can be viewed as a confession of guilt on a number of issues (obstruction of justice, campaign finance violations, etc). Like Rudy said "they are still trying to get their facts straight". Once they get a story that doesn't convict Trump of a crime I'm sure we'll hear it.
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Well that explains a lot. Here I was wondering why Trump's lawyers portrayed themselves as interns still trying to get up to speed on the facts and unable to distinguish between fact and opinion. I guess it is because all the reasonable lawyers assume Trump is guilty and therefore would not allow him to talk to Mueller. For a guy that should be keeping his mouth shut Trump sure does talk a lot.

The problem I see with Trump not talking to Mueller is that Mueller would then be forced to use his public comments, which obviously creates a problem for Trump since they can be viewed as a confession of guilt on a number of issues (obstruction of justice, campaign finance violations, etc). Like Rudy said "they are still trying to get their facts straight". Once they get a story that doesn't convict Trump of a crime I'm sure we'll hear it.
Judge Ellis has shamed Muller and his House of Cards. Their time is near.

Trump should keep on tweeting to the American public!

Yo ZNP, you got any honest politicians in NY?

Lock 'em all up!
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Great description of the Obama / Clinton crime families.
I almost want to read Richard III again.
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