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[ZNPaaneah]

Originally Posted by awareness

Let's come back to something that relates to us LCer's.

Why not just wait until Monday to hear who the nominee is?

[Ohio]

Originally Posted by ZNPaaneah

Why not just wait until Monday to hear who the nominee is?

Trump will pick a brilliant constitutional jurist. It will be the end of the world. Perhaps Armageddon. At least for Progressives. If they lose their "right" to slaughter the unborn, they will go apoplectic. So much compassion for children separated for two weeks at the border from illegal immigrant human traffickers, yet absolutely no compassion for those violently yanked from the safety of their mother's womb. Hypocrites! Murderers!

Trump may be a tough, pugnacious counter-puncher who fights for America, but he has proven to be a compassionate and kind leader towards the weak and the hurting. He is not like the Obama administration that locks up children in cages.

[Ohio]

The new face of Leftist Progressivism:

[awareness]

Originally Posted by Ohio

Trump will pick a brilliant constitutional jurist.

Prolly the most brilliant jurist in the history of jurists ... of course.

Originally Posted by Ohio

If they lose their "right" to slaughter the unborn, they will go apoplectic. So much compassion for children separated for two weeks at the border from illegal immigrant human traffickers, yet absolutely no compassion for those violently yanked from the safety of their mother's womb. Hypocrites! Murderers!

Are you calling my sister a murderer? Cuz she doesn't believe in abortion but supports choice?

But I know your rant : "Fertilized eggs are human beings. Fertilized eggs are human beings ; with more rights than the biological parents ... and more rights than children after they are born ; Life begins at the appetizer" ... that sort of thing.

Originally Posted by Ohio

Trump may be a tough, pugnacious counter-puncher who fights for America, but he has proven to be a compassionate and kind leader towards the weak and the hurting. He is not like the Obama administration that locks up children in cages.

Bahahahahaha !!!!!

[zeek]

At a rally in Montana, the ever kindly Donald Trump took aim at George H. W. Bush's slogan "thousand points of light," which Bush popularized during his presidential campaign. It later became the titular phrase for Bush's volunteerism organization.
"You know all of the rhetoric you see. 'Thousands points of light.' What the hell was that by the way?" Trump said.
"Thousand points of light," he said. "What does that mean? I know one thing. 'Make America Great Again' we understand. Putting America first we understand. Thousand points of light, I never quite got that one. What the hell is that? Has anyone ever figured that one out? It was put out by a Republican, wasn't it?"
Former White House press secretary Ari Fleischer, who worked for President George W. Bush, called the remarks "so uncalled for."

[zeek]

More grace from the compassionate Saint Donald. On with the "Horror Show"! The Trump administration has quietly decided to reverse an Obama-era rule banning Americans from importing body parts of African elephants killed for sport.

It comes after Donald Trump branded big game trophy hunting a “horror show” last year, and suggested he would not allow the move to go ahead.

In November, the US Fish and Wildlife Service (FWS) announced it would lift a ban on elephants imported from Zimbabwe and Zambia, maintaining wealthy hunters would help raise money for conservation efforts.

A public outcry at the decision prompted the US President to intervene. “Big-game trophy decision will be announced next week,” Mr Trump said on Twitter.

“But will be very hard pressed to change my mind that this horror show in any way helps conservation of Elephants (sic) or any other animal.”

But more than three months later, Ryan Zinke, the Interior Secretary, issued a letter dated 1 March announcing the importing of elephant trophies would now be approved on a "case-by-case basis”.

The letter cites a December ruling in a long-running lawsuit challenging the ban filed by Safari Club International and the lobbying arm of the National Rifle Association.

Mr Zinke recently told people privately that Mr Trump has called him several times to discuss what to do about elephant trophies. Neither the Interior Department nor FWS issued a press release over the last week to announce the decision, which was quickly condemned by environmental advocates.

"The Trump administration is trying to keep these crucial trophy import decisions behind closed doors, and that's totally unacceptable," said Tanya Sanerib, international legal director at the Center for Biological Diversity. "Elephants aren't meant to be trophies, they're meant to roam free."

Mr Trump's two adult sons are trophy hunters. A photo of Donald Trump Jr holding a knife and the bloody severed tail of an elephant he reportedly killed in Zimbabwe in 2011 sparked outrage among animal rights activists.

Mr Zinke is an avid hunter, who after arriving at the Interior Department last year ordered the arcade game "Big Buck Hunter Pro" to be installed in the employee cafeteria at the agency's Washington headquarters, a move he said would promote wildlife and habitat conservation.

In June, the department removed longstanding protections for grizzly bears near Yellowstone National Park, a step that potentially allows them to be hunted. The Fish and Wildlife Service also quietly began issuing permits in October allowing African lions killed in Zimbabwe and Zambia to be imported. Previously, only wild lions killed in South Africa were eligible.

The world's largest land mammal, the African elephant has been classified as threatened under the US Endangered Species Act since 1979. A licensed two-week African elephant hunt can cost more than $50,000 per person, not including airfare, according to advertised rates.

Illicit demand for elephant ivory has led to devastating losses from illegal poaching as the natural habitat available for the animals to roam has also dwindled by more than half. As a result, the number of African elephants has shrunk from about 5 million a century ago to about 400,000 remaining. And that number continues to decline each year.

According to the United Nations, as many as 100,000 African elephants were killed between 2010 and 2012. For forest elephants, the population declined by an estimated 62 per cent between 2002 and 2011.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-a8243361.html

[Ohio]

Originally Posted by zeek

More grace from the compassionate Saint Donald. On with the "Horror Show"! The Trump administration has quietly decided to reverse an Obama-era rule banning Americans from importing body parts of African elephants killed for sport.

It comes after Donald Trump branded big game trophy hunting a “horror show” last year, and suggested he would not allow the move to go ahead.

In November, the US Fish and Wildlife Service (FWS) announced it would lift a ban on elephants imported from Zimbabwe and Zambia, maintaining wealthy hunters would help raise money for conservation efforts.

A public outcry at the decision prompted the US President to intervene. “Big-game trophy decision will be announced next week,” Mr Trump said on Twitter.

“But will be very hard pressed to change my mind that this horror show in any way helps conservation of Elephants (sic) or any other animal.”

But more than three months later, Ryan Zinke, the Interior Secretary, issued a letter dated 1 March announcing the importing of elephant trophies would now be approved on a "case-by-case basis”.

The letter cites a December ruling in a long-running lawsuit challenging the ban filed by Safari Club International and the lobbying arm of the National Rifle Association.

Mr Zinke recently told people privately that Mr Trump has called him several times to discuss what to do about elephant trophies. Neither the Interior Department nor FWS issued a press release over the last week to announce the decision, which was quickly condemned by environmental advocates.

"The Trump administration is trying to keep these crucial trophy import decisions behind closed doors, and that's totally unacceptable," said Tanya Sanerib, international legal director at the Center for Biological Diversity. "Elephants aren't meant to be trophies, they're meant to roam free."

Mr Trump's two adult sons are trophy hunters. A photo of Donald Trump Jr holding a knife and the bloody severed tail of an elephant he reportedly killed in Zimbabwe in 2011 sparked outrage among animal rights activists.

Mr Zinke is an avid hunter, who after arriving at the Interior Department last year ordered the arcade game "Big Buck Hunter Pro" to be installed in the employee cafeteria at the agency's Washington headquarters, a move he said would promote wildlife and habitat conservation.

In June, the department removed longstanding protections for grizzly bears near Yellowstone National Park, a step that potentially allows them to be hunted. The Fish and Wildlife Service also quietly began issuing permits in October allowing African lions killed in Zimbabwe and Zambia to be imported. Previously, only wild lions killed in South Africa were eligible.

The world's largest land mammal, the African elephant has been classified as threatened under the US Endangered Species Act since 1979. A licensed two-week African elephant hunt can cost more than $50,000 per person, not including airfare, according to advertised rates.

Illicit demand for elephant ivory has led to devastating losses from illegal poaching as the natural habitat available for the animals to roam has also dwindled by more than half. As a result, the number of African elephants has shrunk from about 5 million a century ago to about 400,000 remaining. And that number continues to decline each year.

According to the United Nations, as many as 100,000 African elephants were killed between 2010 and 2012. For forest elephants, the population declined by an estimated 62 per cent between 2002 and 2011.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-a8243361.html

You love your elephants more than people Saint ZEEK.

You murder the unborn, then cry foul about elephant rights.

Obviously SAINT ZEEK GEMMER feels the elephants have more rights than people do. Pathetic!

[awareness]

Originally Posted by Ohio

You love your elephants more than people Saint ZEEK.

You murder the unborn, then cry foul about elephant rights.

Obviously SAINT ZEEK GEMMER feels the elephants have more rights than people do. Pathetic!

Good point. I shoot the unborn every time they threaten the lives of elephants.

Jesus said if your eye offend thee, pluck it out, or hand offended thee, cut it off. The unborn are offending all the other species, cut 'em off. That's what Jesus said to do.

[zeek]

Originally Posted by Ohio

You love your elephants more than people Saint ZEEK.

You murder the unborn, then cry foul about elephant rights.

Obviously SAINT ZEEK GEMMER feels the elephants have more rights than people do. Pathetic!

Of course to you I'm a murderer. You have assigned me to The Evil Team. Everything follows from that according to the Ohioan Creed. [See post 3831]

6.The world is divided into two teams, the good and the evil.
7.Everything depends on what team you're on.
8. And thank the Lord, Ohio is on The Good Team. Hallelujah!

[Ohio]

Originally Posted by zeek

At a rally in Montana, the ever kindly Donald Trump took aim at George H. W. Bush's slogan "thousand points of light," which Bush popularized during his presidential campaign. It later became the titular phrase for Bush's volunteerism organization.
"You know all of the rhetoric you see. 'Thousands points of light.' What the hell was that by the way?" Trump said.
"Thousand points of light," he said. "What does that mean? I know one thing. 'Make America Great Again' we understand. Putting America first we understand. Thousand points of light, I never quite got that one. What the hell is that? Has anyone ever figured that one out? It was put out by a Republican, wasn't it?"
Former White House press secretary Ari Fleischer, who worked for President George W. Bush, called the remarks "so uncalled for."

You Democrats mocked Bush 41 constantly for his statement about "thousand points of light." Obviously when Trump was a NY Democrat he heard this mocking of Bush all the time.

So you are now criticizing Trump for agreeing with you?

I can't blame Trump here. All the Bush's were silent on Obama, supposedly out of respect for the office, yet have condemned Trump. The Bush's apparently are all swamp creatures.

[zeek]

Originally Posted by Ohio

You Democrats mocked Bush 41 constantly for his statement about "thousand points of light." Obviously when Trump was a NY Democrat he heard this mocking of Bush all the time.

So you are now criticizing Trump for agreeing with you?

I can't blame Trump here. All the Bush's were silent on Obama, supposedly out of respect for the office, yet have condemned Trump. The Bush's apparently are all swamp creatures.

Of course you can't blame Trump. Post 3831 explains why.
Prop #11 Trump is the savior of The Good Team.
Prop # 12 The Evil Team hates him because he is powerful.
Prop #13 He's going to bring back Jesus.

Of course the Bush's are Swamp Creatures. By criticizing Trump they became traitors against The Good Team. "Swamp Creatures" and "The Deep State" are members of the Evil Team who work in the Federal Government.

[Ohio]

Originally Posted by zeek

Of course the Bush's are Swamp Creatures. By criticizing Trump they became traitors against The Good Team.

Only a Swamp Creature would condemn a President for Nativism -- placing the rights of American citizens and legal immigrants above those of illegal aliens.

You condemned Dubya mercilessly. So do you now worship him for criticizing Trump?