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[ZNPaaneah]

Originally Posted by awareness

Here's a word from George Soros, about Corey Stewart, GOP running for senate in Virginia :

Virginia GOP Senate Candidate Says He's 'Very Proud' the State Joined the Confederacy During the Civil War

https://www.alternet.org/news-amp-po...ederacy-during

That's racism ... not even trying to hide. Proud of it actually. Campaigning on it, for the white vote.

The civil war was not simply about slavery, it was also about State's rights versus Federal govt's power. It was also about the change from an agricultural society to an industrial one. It is insulting, simplistic and wrong to say those in the North were fighting to abolish slavery and those in the South were fighting to preserve it.

When the decision to join the confederacy was made that was certainly not the only factor in the decision. There is overwhelming evidence that many in the North were every bit as racist as many in the South. Many in the North were very clear that they were not fighting to abolish slavery, therefore it is ridiculous to conclude that those in the South had to be fighting to keep it. Likewise, 75% of those in the South did not own slaves, and only about 5% owned more than two. It is naive to think that 75% of those in the South were willing to die so that plantation owners could keep their plantation.

This suggestion that the South was racist and the North was not is divisive. If the South is so racist why did so many freed slaves stay? The reality in the South, just like the North, is that about a third of the people are fleshly, a third are spiritual and about a third are in between.

It is also very possible that the monster created (US Federal govt) can end up committing more heinous crimes than even the South did. I am not excusing the sins of the South, only cautioning against the arrogance of those in the North with their "holier than thou" attitude.

[awareness]

Originally Posted by ZNPaaneah

I am not excusing the sins of the South, only cautioning against the arrogance of those in the North with their "holier than thou" attitude.

Yeah, and John Brown wasn't an abolitionist, neither was the underground rail road, nor the Federal Act. And the Southern Baptist's were formed against slavery.

And: "Corey Stewart, the Republican nominee for a U.S. Senate seat in Virginia, praised former slave-state Virignia's secession effort in 1861 to protect slavery."

[awareness]

A closer look at America’s rapidly growing religious ‘nones’

Religiously UnaffiliatedReligious “nones” – a shorthand we use to refer to people who self-identify as atheists or agnostics, as well as those who say their religion is “nothing in particular” – now make up roughly 23% of the U.S. adult population. This is a stark increase from 2007, the last time a similar Pew Research study was conducted, when 16% of Americans were “nones.” (During this same time period, Christians have fallen from 78% to 71%.)

https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tan...ligious-nones/

[ZNPaaneah]

Originally Posted by awareness

Yeah, and John Brown wasn't an abolitionist, neither was the underground rail road, nor the Federal Act. And the Southern Baptist's were formed against slavery.

And: "Corey Stewart, the Republican nominee for a U.S. Senate seat in Virginia, praised former slave-state Virignia's secession effort in 1861 to protect slavery."

The quotation marks you put in could be misinterpreted to be quoting Corey Stewart, they weren't, they were quoting the author* of the article.

This is his quote: "But it's also the state of Robert E. Lee, and Stonewall Jackson, and J.E.B. Stuart. Because, at the base of it, Virginians, we think for ourselves," he said. "And if the established order is wrong, we rebel. We did that in the Revolution, we did it in the Civil War, and we're doing it today. We're doing it today because they're trying to rob us of everything that we hold dear: our history, our heritage, our culture."

Once again, my point is very simple, Robert E. Lee and Stonewall Jackson were two of America's greatest generals on the battlefield and I have no issue with someone from Virginia being proud of them. Not to mention George Washington and some of the other names he mentioned.

I think the South and the entire US had very heinous sins to atone for as a result of slavery and the Civil war is the cost we paid for that unrighteousness and sin.

That said, the claim that someone from Virginia is a racist because they are proud to be from Virginia is repulsive.

*Chris Sosa, the author of the article is clearly a very biased reporter. One article of his refers to the "Trump cult" and "magical thinking". Another says that the Trump GOP is the modern day KKK and that the grand wizard is in the Whitehouse. A third talks about Trump's mental decline as being obvious and undeniable. A fourth says that Nixon was never publicly unhinged like Trump. This article says that a man running for public office in Virginia and who is unashamed to be from Virginia, even proud to be from Virginia must a racist. Let the reader beware.