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[Ohio]

Originally Posted by zeek

I don't watch TV so stupid TV commercials don't bother me.

You're still paying for their stupidity whether you "enjoy" it or not.

[zeek]

Originally Posted by Ohio

You're still paying for their stupidity whether you "enjoy" it or not.

So I should pay higher premiums so that your intelligence doesn't get insulted when you watch TV; is that what you're suggesting? What about all those stupid drug ads that big Pharma runs we're all paying for those too, if we use their products. It's marketing which is used to create, keep and satisfy the customers in our capitalist economy. You don't have a problem with that do you?

[awareness]

Originally Posted by zeek

I know you're frustrated. But where do you get off speaking for Awareness?

No need to apologize. You can speak for me any time. You'll prolly be better at it than I.

[Ohio]

Originally Posted by zeek

So I should pay higher premiums so that your intelligence doesn't get insulted when you watch TV; is that what you're suggesting? What about all those stupid drug ads that big Pharma runs we're all paying for those too, if we use their products. It's marketing which is used to create, keep and satisfy the customers in our capitalist economy. You don't have a problem with that do you?

Originally Posted by awareness

No need to apologize. You can speak for me any time. You'll prolly be better at it than I.

Thet's doubtful awareness, but maybe you can help zeek get some better insurance, and perhaps some generic meds.

So you hate capitalism zeek? Show me one successful Socialist country in history. In capitalist economies we will always have poor people, but in socialist economies everybody is poor. Think about what happened to Venezuela.

[ZNPaaneah]

Originally Posted by Ohio

Thet's doubtful awareness, but maybe you can help zeek get some better insurance, and perhaps some generic meds.

So you hate capitalism zeek? Show me one successful Socialist country in history. In capitalist economies we will always have poor people, but in socialist economies everybody is poor. Think about what happened to Venezuela.

We are not a purely capitalist society. The fire dept does not work as a function of capitalism (we tried that). Likewise with the police dept and school system.

"Obama Care" and "Medicare" are clearly socialist policies.

Social Security is clearly a socialist policy.

We also have some communist laws, we believe beaches should be "common", likewise with some parks, air, water, etc.

[awareness]

Let's just not have Christian values :

Franklin Graham on Judge Kavanaugh Accusation: 'Not Relevant'
https://www1.cbn.com/cbnnews/2018/se...n-not-relevant

[ZNPaaneah]

Originally Posted by awareness

Let's just not have Christian values :

Franklin Graham on Judge Kavanaugh Accusation: 'Not Relevant'
https://www1.cbn.com/cbnnews/2018/se...n-not-relevant

By "christian values" are you referring to where he says he did things as a teenager he is now ashamed of and has since repented of?

[awareness]

Originally Posted by ZNPaaneah

By "christian values" are you referring to where he says he did things as a teenager he is now ashamed of and has since repented of?

Good point. Christian values do include controlling women's bodies. And that's what Kav did by holding Ford down and trying to rape her, and obviously what he believes. Do we really want someone like that on the supreme court for life ... FOR LIFE?

[Ohio]

Originally Posted by awareness

Let's just not have Christian values :

Franklin Graham on Judge Kavanaugh Accusation: 'Not Relevant'
https://www1.cbn.com/cbnnews/2018/se...n-not-relevant

How many times do we need to see some Leftist activist "professor" show up at the last minute with accusations against a SCOTUS appointment before we suspect that something is seriously amiss?

[ZNPaaneah]

Originally Posted by Ohio

How many times do we need to see some Leftist activist "professor" show up at the last minute with accusations against a SCOTUS appointment before we suspect that something is seriously amiss?

It is a very ugly situation.

Facts:

1. Kavanaugh has had background checks done on him 6 times. These involve talking to coworkers, classmates, professors, neighbors, friends and family. It is very difficult to imagine that someone in his position, with his power, would not have manifested this behavior repeatedly and that this behavior would have been discovered in previous background checks.

2. This woman didn't ever report a crime.

3. This woman does not have any physical evidence (ripped blouse, DNA, photograph of her after the "attack")

4. She doesn't remember the party or the day

5. The other person she claims saw it says he didn't, however he has previously written a book about him being an alcoholic and drunken HS parties. This would have been common knowledge to anyone looking to discredit Kavanaugh.

6. They knew about this claim two months before dropping it at the last moment supporting the assertion that this is a desperate attempt to delay the process.

7. No corroborating witnesses have come forward to support this assertion.

8. Many people have stepped forward to provide positive character witness for Kavanaugh.

On the other hand

1. Kavanaugh is quoted in a speech where he quotes a Dean from that HS that "what happens in that school stays in that school" supporting the assertion that he did things in HS he is not proud of.

2. Kavanaugh's friend in HS was a drunk who attended many wild, drunken parties.


There are two possible "truths".

1. This woman is telling the truth, in which case this kid did something he was not proud of, but didn't rise to the level of a crime.

2. This woman is a false witness brought in by the Democrats in a desperate attempt to slow down the process.

Conclusion

We are choosing someone to be on the Supreme court for possibly 30+ years. Therefore if this is true it is relevant for the Senators to make a decision. On the other hand if this woman is a false witness I would want a full investigation by the FBI, determine this and then convict everyone involved in this crime of slander.

Therefore I support the request for a full FBI investigation and I agree that delaying this process a few weeks is a minor inconvenience.

[awareness]

Originally Posted by Ohio

How many times do we need to see some Leftist activist "professor" show up at the last minute with accusations against a SCOTUS appointment before we suspect that something is seriously amiss?

How many times do we need to see a rightist activist seek to control women's bodies, but never the same to men's bodies? When it's men that are to blame for abortion.

[zeek]

Originally Posted by Ohio

Thet's doubtful awareness, but maybe you can help zeek get some better insurance, and perhaps some generic meds.

So you hate capitalism zeek? Show me one successful Socialist country in history. In capitalist economies we will always have poor people, but in socialist economies everybody is poor. Think about what happened to Venezuela.

You were the one that was complaining about TV advertising. All I did was point out that that's part of so called free enterprise capitalism. To jump from that to accuse me of hating capitalism is irrrational.

[Ohio]

Originally Posted by zeek

You were the one that was complaining about TV advertising. All I did was point out that that's part of so called free enterprise capitalism. To jump from that to accuse me of hating capitalism is irrrational.

I thought you were denigrating our evil capitalistic economy. My bad.

I did say that having conversations with you is a challenging endeavor.

[zeek]

Originally Posted by Ohio

I thought you were denigrating our evil capitalistic economy. My bad.

No problem.

Originally Posted by Ohio

I did say that having conversations with you is a challenging endeavor.

Sorry. I realize it's tough for you because my thinking doesn't fit neatly into your pigeonholes.