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Old 09-24-2018, 06:08 AM   #1
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Your "perspective" doesn't include recognizing "this woman" as a person with a name. Are you referring to Dr. Christine Blasey Ford, Deborah Ramirez or has someone else come forward with complaints about Kavanaugh?
I identified her as the one scheduled to testify before a hearing on Thursday, obviously Dr. Ford. If you look at the evidence it appears to be nothing but a false witness. If that is the case then are you allowing liars and cheats to come forward one at a time to railroad the legislative process?

We don't need two rapes to disqualify him, one is good enough. But if they sat on this bogus claim for 6 weeks and then are able to delay the process for 2 weeks then a second false claim can easily delay it for another 2 weeks.

So I stand by my original position -- at this point this woman should be heard and her claim fully investigated. If it turns out to be dirty tricks by the Democrats all involved should be prosecuted and go to jail for slander. Then this case can be a precedent that these hearings do not allow anyone to make a charge without at least 2 witnesses (physical evidence is a witness).
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Old 09-24-2018, 07:03 AM   #2
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I identified her as the one scheduled to testify before a hearing on Thursday, obviously Dr. Ford. If you look at the evidence it appears to be nothing but a false witness. If that is the case then are you allowing liars and cheats to come forward one at a time to railroad the legislative process?

We don't need two rapes to disqualify him, one is good enough. But if they sat on this bogus claim for 6 weeks and then are able to delay the process for 2 weeks then a second false claim can easily delay it for another 2 weeks.

So I stand by my original position -- at this point this woman should be heard and her claim fully investigated. If it turns out to be dirty tricks by the Democrats all involved should be prosecuted and go to jail for slander. Then this case can be a precedent that these hearings do not allow anyone to make a charge without at least 2 witnesses (physical evidence is a witness).
Exactly! Remember Anita Hill? Women are such liars they should all be kept silent like in Paul's churches right?
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Old 09-24-2018, 07:39 AM   #3
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Exactly! Remember Anita Hill? Women are such liars they should all be kept silent like in Paul's churches right?
Wow! Sounds like you have some unresolved issues you need to deal with.

My point is simple: Rape is a terrible crime, we certainly don't want to appoint a Supreme court justice who is guilty of this crime, regardless of how long ago. Since Rape is such a terrible crime the false accusation of rape should also be viewed as a terrible crime. We have had DNA evidence used to convict people of rape for more than 36 years, therefore the claim that "I was afraid no one would believe me" is very weak and getting weaker every year. Between rape kits and DNA we can virtually prove rape in every instance.

I want to know the truth. I am in full agreement that a crime has been committed. If it is rape, prove it. If it is slander, prove it. But one way or another I want one of these two to be held fully accountable to Dr. Ford's claim.

(As for your backhanded swipe at Paul's epistles, you have twisted his word about dealing with Kings and the local government. When the church is dealing with human government authorities there should only be one designated spokesman and everyone else needs to keep quiet. Second, you need to be sympathetic to the mores of the local government, just as we are today. This is why our political leaders will go to Saudi Arabia and cover their heads if they are women. It is a matter of respect. If the church is located in a country that would view a woman spokesman as disrespectful, then use a brother. If it is possible we need to be at peace with all people. However, in a church meeting the woman should have their head covered, just like every single member should, even Jesus was subject and learned submission. Paul taught that the sisters could pray (with their head covered), teach the younger sisters, and be ministry leaders.)
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Old 09-24-2018, 08:16 AM   #4
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I want to know the truth. I am in full agreement that a crime has been committed. If it is rape, prove it. If it is slander, prove it. But one way or another I want one of these two to be held fully accountable to Dr. Ford's claim.
I also am in full agreement. Had they held Anita Hill accountable, we would not be in this situation today. If they repeat history ... again ... then Democrats will continue to play these dirty tricks with every nomination.

Look at the charges against Keith Ellison, running for MN AG. His accuser, his former girlfriend is also a democrat, now smeared by her own party. Her charges are specific, detailed, and recent.

Where's all the outcry from zeek and awareness for this Muslam who treats his women as less than human.

With his posts zeek constantly slams both conservatives, men, and Christians. This is a constant theme of both him and the LEFT.
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I also am in full agreement. Had they held Anita Hill accountable, we would not be in this situation today. If they repeat history ... again ... then Democrats will continue to play these dirty tricks with every nomination.
Dirty tricks. They don't play as dirty as the pubbies did with Obama's supreme picks.
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Dirty tricks. They don'y play as dirty as the pubbies did with Obama's supreme picks.
There were no dirty tricks. Have you not read that Harry Reid changed the Senate rules and went nuclear? Just because his short-sighted rules change has backfired, don't blame those Republicans you seem to hate.

I thought you didn't like Obama. And I thought you cared for the lives of the innocent unborn.

You do know that the LEFT has made this all about abortion, even though Roe/Casey is settled law, as Kavanaugh himself says, "precedent upon precedent."
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The swamp rats are now scrambling for cover.

Rosenstein got McCabe fired and now McCabe leaks info to NY Times that forces Rosenstein to resign ???
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