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Old 09-29-2018, 01:58 PM   #1
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Kavanaugh said he "fell asleep" after drinking. "Blackout" is now in the eyes of the beholder.

The real issue here is that this woman Dr. Ford was never cross-examined. They have never examined her life and background. She has mental health issues. Was she hypnotized into remembering Kavanaugh? Why are her lawyers Democratic operatives? There are serious legal issues here unresolved.

Without due process, every so-called government "job interview" can be squashed by one person's accusation, even if you never met the person. All they have to prove is that they once lived in the same state.
I don't think any of that is "the real issue". To me the real issue is this process. A person is nominated to this post, obviously a great honor for someone who is a judge. The criteria for confirmation should not be a political football. They should create the prerequisites they are expecting in a Supreme Court Justice, and they should identify Felonies and maybe even misdemeanors as being cause for rejection.

IMO one week from now nothing will have changed. The FBI will not present a report that makes their previous background checks look like keystone cops, so no allegation will be substantiated. He will not be accused or tried for any crime. Yet his name and reputation will be forever damaged, as will Dr. Ford's. No Democrat is going to change their position because all the allegations will still be out there and the cry will be that one week is not enough time. All but 2 Republicans will not change their opinion. So then if he is approved all the Pro choicers will be screaming in outrage when in reality this should never have been done in public. If he is denied confirmation the Pro Life, Pro Trump portion of the US will be screaming in outrage and there is nothing that could have motivated them to come out and vote and ignore all the convictions of Cohen, etc. like this.
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Old 09-29-2018, 03:28 PM   #2
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I don't think any of that is "the real issue". To me the real issue is this process. A person is nominated to this post, obviously a great honor for someone who is a judge. The criteria for confirmation should not be a political football. They should create the prerequisites they are expecting in a Supreme Court Justice, and they should identify Felonies and maybe even misdemeanors as being cause for rejection.

IMO one week from now nothing will have changed. The FBI will not present a report that makes their previous background checks look like keystone cops, so no allegation will be substantiated. He will not be accused or tried for any crime. Yet his name and reputation will be forever damaged, as will Dr. Ford's. No Democrat is going to change their position because all the allegations will still be out there and the cry will be that one week is not enough time. All but 2 Republicans will not change their opinion. So then if he is approved all the Pro choicers will be screaming in outrage when in reality this should never have been done in public. If he is denied confirmation the Pro Life, Pro Trump portion of the US will be screaming in outrage and there is nothing that could have motivated them to come out and vote and ignore all the convictions of Cohen, etc. like this.
All but 2 Republicans will not change their opinion?

Ignore all the convictions of Cohen, etc.

Explain.
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All but 2 Republicans will not change their opinion?

Ignore all the convictions of Cohen, etc.

Explain.
There were two Republicans that are considered on the fence, they are the only two that I see who might not vote for Kavanaugh for the Republicans, and if they don't, then he won't be confirmed. That is the sum total of this investigation, what will these two do?
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Old 09-29-2018, 04:35 PM   #4
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There were two Republicans that are considered on the fence, they are the only two that I see who might not vote for Kavanaugh for the Republicans, and if they don't, then he won't be confirmed. That is the sum total of this investigation, what will these two do?
Three. Flake, Murkowski, Collins.

I could see Flake switching parties (or being independent) had he more time in the Senate. Many in WashDC become more liberal over time, especially in the SCOTUS.

Fortunately John Kyl replaced McCain, otherwise McCain would knife Trump again.

Roberts is not the conservative people make him out to be. E.G. ObamaCare vote. He will be the next "swing" vote if Kavanaugh is elected. I doubt Roberts would ever vote to overturn Roe/Casey.

If the Senate flips, and RBG resigns or dies, I can see Trump nominating Merrick Garland. Trump would do that because Garland is moderate, and the Democratic Senate would be forced to confirm him after whining for a few years. It's kind of like when Trump offered to raise the DACA from 800K to 1,800K. Trump wants solutions, even if they are not his first choice.
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Old 10-01-2018, 05:41 AM   #5
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A Catholic magazine, America: The Jesuit Review, revoked its endorsement of Brett Kavanaugh after the Senate hearing.

https://www.americamagazine.org/poli...n-be-withdrawn
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Old 10-01-2018, 07:38 AM   #6
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A Catholic magazine, America: The Jesuit Review, revoked its endorsement of Brett Kavanaugh after the Senate hearing.

https://www.americamagazine.org/poli...n-be-withdrawn
Anyone with half a brain, who saw Kav's performance at the hearing, wouldn't endorse Kav, to the highest judicial position, for life.

As I see it, both parties have lost it. And truth no longer matters for our highest judges.
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A Catholic magazine, America: The Jesuit Review, revoked its endorsement of Brett Kavanaugh after the Senate hearing.

https://www.americamagazine.org/poli...n-be-withdrawn
The Catholic Church weighing in on sexual abuse? That's rich!
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The Catholic Church weighing in on sexual abuse? That's rich!
I think the author addresses that problem. Anyway, without them your anti-abortion stance is greatly weakened.
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