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[awareness]

Originally Posted by ZNPaaneah

Really? In what posts does Ohio indicate that he delights in terrorism, pipe bombs, or threats of violence?

Oh forget it. The pipe bombs are only false flags, planted by liberal democrats.

[ZNPaaneah]

Originally Posted by awareness

Oh forget it. The pipe bombs are only false flags, planted by liberal democrats.

wouldn't it be more reasonable to suspect the Russians or Chinese?

[Ohio]

Originally Posted by awareness

Oh forget it. The pipe bombs are only false flags, planted by liberal democrats.

Starting to look like that.

But we'll have to wait for the investigation to run it's course.

But who sends out a bunch of bombs that never were intended to blow up?

Obviously intended only to create fear and sway public opinion.

[ZNPaaneah]

Originally Posted by Ohio

Starting to look like that.

But we'll have to wait for the investigation to run it's course.

But who sends out a bunch of bombs that never were intended to blow up?

Obviously intended only to create fear and sway public opinion.

The return address proves this was obviously a political stunt designed to influence the election. The skill at making something like this indicates military training. The scope of all the bombs sent indicates an organization.

I am guessing the Russians.

[zeek]

Originally Posted by ZNPaaneah

The return address proves this was obviously a political stunt designed to influence the election. The skill at making something like this indicates military training. The scope of all the bombs sent indicates an organization.

I am guessing the Russians.

... ...or a 700 pound guy living in his mom's basement...

[ZNPaaneah]

Originally Posted by zeek

... ...or a 700 pound guy living in his mom's basement...

No way. The unabomber was meticulous, careful, smart, and forensically savvy. As a result it took him months, even years between bombs.

If this is some fat wannabe the police will be arresting him in 48 hours.

No way some loser in his mom's basement sends all of these bombs in a single day and isn't caught. This looks like an organization to me.

Unexploded bombs? That is total arrogance. If we can figure out who made them from fragments after an explosion, imagine being given a bunch of unexploded ones with all the wrappings.

Whoever did this was hitting a hornets nest with a baseball bat, they don't care which way the hornets fly.

The mad bomber, the unabomber, they all had an internal rage. This person doesn't have any rage at all, simply trying to provoke.

[Ohio]

Originally Posted by zeek

... ...or a 700 pound guy living in his mom's basement...

Hey zeek, why is it your boy governor Gillum is so easily purchased?

He'll give you anything you want for tickets to Hamilton.

Thousand bucks a seat! Was it really worth it?

Do the right thing and vote for a man of character -- DeSantis.

[zeek]

Originally Posted by Ohio

Hey zeek, why is it your boy governor Gillum is so easily purchased?

He'll give you anything you want for tickets to Hamilton.

Thousand bucks a seat! Was it really worth it?

Do the right thing and vote for a man of character -- DiSantis.

A guy who voted for a pussy grabbing, con artist, and pathological liar shouldn't be talking about integrity.

[ZNPaaneah]

Originally Posted by zeek

A guy who voted for a pussy grabbing, con artist, and pathological liar shouldn't be talking about integrity.

That is a deflection, didn't answer the question.

[Ohio]

Originally Posted by zeek

A guy who voted for a pussy grabbing, con artist, and pathological liar shouldn't be talking about integrity.

Typical Leftist strategy -- bear false witness without a shred of evidence. You left out, however, many of your usual accusations.

Didn't you used to be a Christian? How can you publicly break the 9th Commandment.

[Ohio]

Originally Posted by ZNPaaneah

The return address proves this was obviously a political stunt designed to influence the election. The skill at making something like this indicates military training. The scope of all the bombs sent indicates an organization.

I am guessing the Russians.

The Russians seem to prefer chemicals. I would give them far more respect than these inept devices display.

Seriously though, all the news coming out seems to indicate that none of these was actually a bomb. One pro commented that the photo circulating from CNN seemed more like a stage prop. And how in the world did Jim Acosta get to take a picture of this faux-bomb?

I would guess that the level of professionalism to be found in these devices has more to do with hiding evidence than with actual explosive capability.

[ZNPaaneah]

Originally Posted by Ohio

The Russians seem to prefer chemicals. I would give them far more respect than these inept devices display.

Seriously though, all the news coming out seems to indicate that none of these was actually a bomb. One pro commented that the photo circulating from CNN seemed more like a stage prop. And how in the world did Jim Acosta get to take a picture of this faux-bomb?

I would guess that the level of professionalism to be found in these devices has more to do with hiding evidence than with actual explosive capability.

The information I saw was that these were bombs, and that they were carefully designed to not explode. You are not going to get 100 NYPD and the governor involved in a faux bomb threat. NY does not have any agenda to be viewed as a dangerous place full of bombs.

Although they were not the typical MO of the Russians you are comparing apples and oranges. Whoever did this was not planning on hurting anyone. When the Russians use poison or plutonium they are planning on killing. Once again this looks completely staged. Bombers as a rule have a lot of rage burning white hot. This on the other hand does not express rage. Second the ridiculous return addresses are as blatant a political statement as you can imagine. Bombers have always been trying to make a statement, in fact it is usually resorting to bombs when no one will listen. The statement here seems clear -- remember how much you hate Clinton and the Democratic party.

On the other hand targeting everyone that Trump has singled out, particularly CNN insures that there is a lot of coverage discussing his irresponsible behavior.

Looks like an attempt to provoke ugly discourse on both sides and to make the political process that much uglier. For example look at Awareness post that conservatives are delighted with terrorist attacks, and Zeek's comment reminding us of Trump's accusation of fat guys living in their parents basement.

[Ohio]

Originally Posted by ZNPaaneah

The information I saw was that these were bombs, and that they were carefully designed to not explode. You are not going to get 100 NYPD and the governor involved in a faux bomb threat. NY does not have any agenda to be viewed as a dangerous place full of bombs.

Although they were not the typical MO of the Russians you are comparing apples and oranges. Whoever did this was not planning on hurting anyone. When the Russians use poison or plutonium they are planning on killing. Once again this looks completely staged. Bombers as a rule have a lot of rage burning white hot. This on the other hand does not express rage. Second the ridiculous return addresses are as blatant a political statement as you can imagine. Bombers have always been trying to make a statement, in fact it is usually resorting to bombs when no one will listen. The statement here seems clear -- remember how much you hate Clinton and the Democratic party.

I guess you are right -- all evidence points to me.

I never did agree with the Dems abortion policies, and I dont know a thing about making bombs either.

Pretty conclusive. I can see why you teach forensicks. (Sic)

[ZNPaaneah]

Joe Biden, Robert Deniro, The Associated Press reported that X-rays showed the package contained a device similar to those addressed to former President Barack Obama, former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, ex-CIA Director John Brennan, former Attorney General Eric Holder, Rep. Maxine Waters, D-Calif., and billionaire philanthropist George Soros. Also, CNN. That is 9 packages and counting. That is a lot.

In simple terms, real bombers bomb; they don’t make bomb threats.
In talking to a colleague from the ATFE, I asked him how many bomb threats he had responded to over his 30-plus year-career, where he had found a real bomb and he said, “Zero.” (https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/b...-threat-makers)

So what was this, was it a "bombing" or a "threat"? This is why this appears staged by real hunters. A real hunter doesn't know how to "howl" so they simply made a bomb that wouldn't explode, yet those who actually make bomb threats don't know how to make bombs.