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[Ohio]

Originally Posted by zeek

God’s Red Army

The Republican Party hopes to beat back the Democrats on Tuesday with a big push from the Christian right.

“If we do our jobs,” Ralph Reed of the Faith & Freedom Coalition boasted at the Values Voters Summit in September, “they are going to be more shocked than they were the last time.”

The Christian nationalist turnout machine relies heavily on an extensive network of conservative pastors.

J.C. Church, Watchmen on the Wall’s national director of ministry engagement and a founder of the Ohio-focused get-out-the-vote initiative Awake88, said, “the No. 1 thing” anybody can give you is “the supreme Christ.” But “the second greatest thing we can give this generation,” he swiftly added, “is the Supreme Court. We can build a firewall for our children and grandchildren that they just might scale the seven mountains of influence.”

“Seven mountains” alludes to an aspect of Christian dominionist ideology, according to which God has commanded true Christians to gain control of seven areas of civilization — including government, business, education and the media.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/11/02/o...d=165251391103

The Devil's Blue Army

Hopes to advance His many causes of atheism, abortion murders, suppression of free speech, totalitarian socialism, identity politics, anarchist protests, politically correct speech, activist judges, gay and transgender education for public schools, suppression of conservative ideals, condemnation of Republican elected officials, smear campaign against Trump, Mueller's attempts to frame the Presidemt, Pelosi's impeachment campaign, etc.

[zeek]

Originally Posted by Ohio

The Devil's Blue Army

Hopes to advance His many causes of atheism, abortion murders, suppression of free speech, totalitarian socialism, identity politics, anarchist protests, politically correct speech, activist judges, gay and transgender education for public schools, suppression of conservative ideals, condemnation of Republican elected officials, smear campaign against Trump, Mueller's attempts to frame the Presidemt, Pelosi's impeachment campaign, etc.

You think people who don't agree with your opinions are of the Devil. No wonder Right-wingers think they're justified to send us bombs in the mail and shoot us in our synagogues and churches. After all they're just slaying the "Devil's Blue Army".

[Ohio]

Originally Posted by zeek

You think people who don't agree with your opinions are of the Devil. No wonder Right-wingers think they're justified to send us bombs in the mail and shoot us in our synagogues and churches. After all they're just slaying the Devil's army.

Hold on there. Get your facts straight.

Wasn't it a left-wing anti-semite who shot up that synagogue? Wasn't it a left-wing socialist who shot up that Congressional game? Isn't it those left-wing crazies who use social media to target conservatives in restaurants in every city.

So let me ask zeek, is atheism of God or the Devil?

Is abortion of God or the Devil?

Are threats of violence in public places of God or the Devil?

Is gay and transgender sex education in preschools of God or the Devil?

[ZNPaaneah]

Originally Posted by Ohio

Hold on there. Get your facts straight.

Wasn't it a left-wing anti-semite who shot up that synagogue? Wasn't it a left-wing socialist who shot up that Congressional game? Isn't it those left-wing crazies who use social media to target conservatives in restaurants in every city.

So let me ask zeek, is atheism of God or the Devil?

Is abortion of God or the Devil?

Are threats of violence in public places of God or the Devil?

Is gay and transgender sex education in preschools of God or the Devil?

And this is why the US is destined to be a house divided and cannot stand.

[zeek]

Originally Posted by ZNPaaneah

And this is why the US is destined to be a house divided and cannot stand.

Yeah. I don't think labeling people as "the Devil's Blue Army" helps, do you?

[ZNPaaneah]

Originally Posted by zeek

Yeah. I don't think labeling people as "the Devil's Blue Army" helps, do you?

I think the idea of a constitution with "freedom of religion" is doomed to failure. The questions that Ohio asked make that clear.

[Ohio]

Originally Posted by ZNPaaneah

And this is why the US is destined to be a house divided and cannot stand.

Both the House and the Senate have always been divided.

And I don't think these bogus "principles" are going to work on conservatives any more, not after we witnessed the vicious evil inflicted on the Kavanaugh family by your people.

Originally Posted by zeek

Yeah. I don't think labeling people as "the Devil's Blue Army" helps, do you?

Does mocking conservative's as "God’s Red Army" help?

I'd say that it's better to know what one stands for.

[ZNPaaneah]

Originally Posted by Ohio

Both the House and the Senate have always been divided.

And I don't think these bogus "principles" are going to work on conservatives any more, not after we witnessed the vicious evil inflicted on the Kavanaugh family by your people.

Who are my people? Why do you accuse "my people" of inflicting evil on the Kavanaugh family?

[Ohio]

Originally Posted by ZNPaaneah

Who are my people? Why do you accuse "my people" of inflicting evil on the Kavanaugh family?

"Journalists." Don't you come from a family of journalists? Don't I get to generalize judgments like the rest of you guys?

Didn't journalists blame Trump for the Synagogue murders and the pipebomber? You know MAGA bomber! I saw endless journalists chime in on Trump's danger to society.

Don't you see how the game is played? Perhaps you need to learn from zeek and our MOTA.


Don't get offended, I'm just learning how to ditch common sense reason and play the Left's games.

[zeek]

On Friday 11/02/2018 in Tallahassee a gunman shot a group of people a yoga studio, killing a physician and a university student and injuring five others before killing himself. The killer was a far-right extremist and self-proclaimed misogynist who railed against women, black people, and immigrants in a series of online videos and songs. He had a history of sexually assaulting women. My community is in shock and mourning. https://www.orlandosentinel.com/news...103-story.html

[zeek]

Originally Posted by Ohio

Hold on there. Get your facts straight.

Wasn't it a left-wing anti-semite who shot up that synagogue? Wasn't it a left-wing socialist who shot up that Congressional game? Isn't it those left-wing crazies who use social media to target conservatives in restaurants in every city.

So let me ask zeek, is atheism of God or the Devil?

Is abortion of God or the Devil?

Are threats of violence in public places of God or the Devil?

Is gay and transgender sex education in preschools of God or the Devil?

Once again you expose yourself with your devil talk thus providing more evidence in support of my last post:

You think people who don't agree with your opinions are of the Devil. No wonder Right-wingers think they're justified to send us bombs in the mail and shoot us in our synagogues and churches. After all they're just slaying the "Devil's Blue Army".

[OBW]

Originally Posted by Ohio

The Devil's Blue Army

Hopes to advance His many causes of atheism, abortion murders, suppression of free speech, totalitarian socialism, identity politics, anarchist protests, politically correct speech, activist judges, gay and transgender education for public schools, suppression of conservative ideals, condemnation of Republican elected officials, smear campaign against Trump, Mueller's attempts to frame the Presidemt, Pelosi's impeachment campaign, etc.

The whole premise that the conservative side (Republican) is God's and the liberal (Democrat) is of the devil is a tale spun by the kind of ignorant people who believe in America as a Christian nation and that God votes Republican.

All lies and false news.

[Ohio]

Originally Posted by OBW

The whole premise that the conservative side (Republican) is God's and the liberal (Democrat) is of the devil is a tale spun by the kind of ignorant people who believe in America as a Christian nation and that God votes Republican.

All lies and false news.

The chief issue of this divide is abortion, the murder of the unborn. Apparently you are now convinced that God is not so concerned about the unborn life as the conservatives are.

Did you ever wonder why God commanded the Israelites to kill the Canaanites noted for their human / child sacrifice? Same goes for the Catholic Spaniard Cortez and the Incas who practiced the same?

Nobody is saying that God endorses Republican policies exclusively, every Republican candidate, or "every word that proceedeth forth from the tweet of Trump," but He has commanded us to "Choose Life, that you and your children may live." (Deut 30.19)

Do you also believe that God had no interest in Trump's decision to move our Embassy to Jerusalem? No interest in unwavering Republican support for Israel going back decades?

[OBW]

Originally Posted by Ohio

The chief issue of this divide is abortion, the murder of the unborn. Apparently you are now convinced that God is not so concerned about the unborn life as the conservatives are.

The last time I checked, the kingdom of God was not in the business of abortions. That is in the kingdom of the world.

While God may have used Israel to deal with the sins of the Canaanintes, most of which was about them refusing to even acknowledge God which resulting in all those other sins, the task of the church is not to bring God's justice on anyone outside of the household of faith (and even then the justice generally results only in their expulsion from our fellowship, not from citizenship of the worldly kingdom in which we live), or in the taking of their life. Our charge is to live the life of righteousness that we were originally created for. And in doing that to attempt to bring more people into the nation-in-exile which is the kingdom of God.

All of this railing over abortion that is occurring in the world is not furthering our actual charge. And no matter how much more important you think certain sins are v others (I do not disagree), their eradication through marriage of the church with the government of the world is absolutely NOT an option. It is as bad as anything that the RCC ever did in its worst times. It associates us with the immorality of Trump. I refuse to have any such association. No matter how nice it would be to end all abortion, union with the world is not the way.

In any case, it is time to remember that we should not fear. Not fear the liberals. Not fear the caravan. Not fear healthcare that in any way involves the government.

Fear Not.

I am not saying to just roll over. But to the extent that you want to shape how any of that happens, get involved in the process. Don't just hope that a bully can force it upon us (or them). That would be truly unexceptional.