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Old 11-05-2018, 04:21 AM   #1
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The Bible is filled with "devil talk" you should read it.
I read it most days.

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My comment about "the Devil's Blue Army" was in response to your mocking God and His "red army."
You thought the author was mocking God. I didn't read it that way.

What part of "God's Red Army" don't you like? The people the author referred to believe they have special relationship with God. "Red" is the conventional color for the Republican Party. And "Army" refers to the way the pastors are organizing those folks for political action.

Rather an innocuous and apt trope, I thought. Whereas if you read history you'll see that people who Christians associated with the devil were burned at the stake. Today a guy with an AR-15 might feel justified to murder a bunch of them in what he supposes to be a "synagogue of Satan." It happens.

Anyway, to take offense at being associated with God like you did seems rather hyper-sensitive. Your reaction was a bit like one would expect from those people you mock as "snowflakes". Ironic, don't you think?

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If you read my post, you will see that I listed activities which were the work of the devil. I did not call anyone names. Do you acknowledge abortion as murder, and the work of the devil? Obviously not, because you can't even be sure if there is a God. With such "assurance" in your belief system, do you even believe there is a devil?
No. Abortion is not murder. It's legal in Florida until the last trimester of pregnancy when it's prohibited except when necessary to save the life of the mother when her life is physically endangered and no other medical procedure would suffice for that purpose. At that point it can be a third degree felony depending on the circumstances.

And Florida's abortion laws are, generally speaking, more restrictive than those in many other states. Nothing about the devil in there. You have my "assurance" on that.
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Old 11-05-2018, 04:56 AM   #2
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No. Abortion is not murder. It's legal in Florida until the last trimester of pregnancy when it's prohibited except when necessary to save the life of the mother when her life is physically endangered and no other medical procedure would suffice for that purpose. At that point it can be a third degree felony depending on the circumstances.
Well there you go, that must prove it. Just like everything the Nazi's did during WWII was also legal and not murder. Summary executions on the street by the Gestapo, legal, not murder, not a felony. Gas chambers -- legal, not murder, not a felony.

In the US slavery was legal. Not the Biblical type where a man in debt could sell a number of years of servitude to pay off his debt, no racial, lifetime slavery. No release from the US version of slavery, you are born into it, your kids will be born into it. Not like the Bible where all debts are forgiven every 50 years. There was no year of Jubilee. Yep, that was legal. Even the Supreme court said that it was constitutional in the Dredd Scott decision.
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Old 11-05-2018, 06:04 AM   #3
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Gas chambers -- legal, not murder, not a felony.
Can't help myself. So you want women not to be considered as sovereign citizens of America, but, if Roe v Wade is not reversed, as walking gas chambers?

The Hitler fallacy argument doesn't hold with abortion. Neither the slavery argument, sanctioned by the Bible, or any other sanction. There's no comparison.

We're talking a womans' body, that no one owns. Let's not make them slaves ... not even the Bible type.
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Old 11-05-2018, 06:10 AM   #4
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Can't help myself. So you want women not to be considered as sovereign citizens of America, but, if Roe v Wade is not reversed, as walking gas chambers?

The Hitler fallacy argument doesn't hold with abortion. Neither the slavery argument, sanctioned by the Bible, or any other sanction. There's no comparison.

We're talking a womans' body, that no one owns. Let's not make them slaves ... not even the Bible type.
The unborn baby is NOT the woman's body!

Abortion clinics ARE legalized gas chambers.

God owns the unborn boy or girl.

And I think you can "help yourself."
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Can't help myself. So you want women not to be considered as sovereign citizens of America, but, if Roe v Wade is not reversed, as walking gas chambers?

The Hitler fallacy argument doesn't hold with abortion. Neither the slavery argument, sanctioned by the Bible, or any other sanction. There's no comparison.

We're talking a womans' body, that no one owns. Let's not make them slaves ... not even the Bible type.
The comparison is that just because some human government says something is "legal" doesn't make it so. There is one law.
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I read it most days.

You thought the author was mocking God. I didn't read it that way.

What part of God's Red Army" don't you like? The people the author referred to believe they have special relationship with God. "Red" is the conventional color for the Republican Party. And "Army" refers to the way the pastors are organizing those folks for political action.
Not true. False. Deceptive.

I've been to many, many churches, and never saw or heard a politician or pastor giving a political stump speech in church. Bogus claim concerning Christians.

Look at prominent Democrats however ...
Louis Farrakhan is an American religious leader, black nationalist, activist, and social commentator. The Southern Poverty Law Center and the Anti-Defamation League describe Farrakhan as antisemitic and a proponent of an anti-white theology.

Jesse Jackson is an American civil rights activist, Baptist minister, and politician. Jackson and other black leaders have publicly endorsed the Palestinian state, with Jackson calling Israel's prime minister a "terrorist", and then soliciting Arab-American financial support.

Al Sharpton is an American civil rights activist, Baptist minister, television and radio talk show host and a former White House adviser for President Barack Obama.

Jeremiah Wright is a pastor emeritus of Trinity United Church of Christ in Chicago, a congregation he led for 36 years. Following retirement, his beliefs and preaching were scrutinized when segments of his sermons about terrorist attacks on the United States and government dishonesty were publicized in connection with the presidential campaign of Barack Obama.
How many times have I seen Democratic candidates speaking in Black "churches?" Too numerous to count.

Why do only real evangelical churches have to comply with the so-called Johnson Amendment?
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Nation of Islam leader Louis Farrakhan led a chant of “Death to America!” on a solidarity visit to Iran this weekend, according to Iranian news sources. He also led a chant of “Death to Israel!



Hey zeek, here are a couple Generals in satan's Blue Army.
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Of course you think you are hurting Farrakhan's rep.

But Breitbart? Really? Why not throw in Alex Jones too?

You can't be serious. You must be just having fun. You can't be that extreme to the right. Not really. You're a Christian. Not a hater.
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Of course you think you are hurting Farrakhan's rep.

But Breitbart? Really? Why not throw in Alex Jones too?

You can't be serious. You must be just having fun. You can't be that extreme to the right. Not really. You're a Christian. Not a hater.
Why do you think the Democrats kept this picture hidden as long as they could?

We need to educate the American voter as to who these Leftist, Socialist, Anti-American, Anti-White, Anti-Israel, pro-Islam leaders are.

Alex Jones may have some crazy conspiracy theories, but even ZNP is on board with the 911 accusations. I'm undecided. Jones never called for "death to America, death to Israel, death to the White Man."
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