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[byHismercy]

Originally Posted by aron

There are different ways to look at the same truth. My way is this: as soon as you think about yourself, your heart, your love (or lack thereof) you fail. The Bible is about Jesus: his love, his heart, his faith, his redeeming act on Calvary.

The LSM assemblies have mis-aimed, in getting people to focus on their own selfish "enjoyment", or "making it", or "building the Body" or whatnot. No wonder that they grow weary and dim.

When you see his love to the Father, his hope, his struggle, his patient endurance, and yes, his love towards his neighbour (Peter, John, Paul, and all of us), everything else just fades away. Jesus said, "These things were written about me". Either he was a crank and a megalomaniac or he was Messiah. Take your pick.

Again I appeal to scripture: "He (the Father) rescued me (the Son) because he delighted in me". Know what Witness Lee saw there? Nothing of value. "Move along, folks. Nothing to see here. We've got a church to build." A church was indeed built but it was lacking love because it often came to scripture but missed Jesus.

To see the Son's faith and obedience, up to and including the death of the cross, to see the Father's delight, and validation by raising this Jesus and giving him glory - what else is there? All other possible realities flow from this singularity. There is nothing else. This was Peter's vision on Pentecost and I daresay nothing has changed from that moment to this.

People tell me, "What about the epistles? What about the Revelation of John? What about Ignatius and Augustine and Luther?" I reply, look at what happened to John when he viewed the Singularity in Revelation 1:17. Again I say, there is nothing else. Our hearts don't have enough room for such love. Just gaze on this One, absorb him.

I know that last line sounds a lot like WL, except he dismissed scripture and missed Jesus Christ. Instead we got, God's Move and the Body.

I think there is a fatal flaw in looking to the 'proper ground' doctrine, Aron. How can we look away unto Jesus if you are staring at your feet, so to speak. I just can't help but think this has a disastrous spiritual consequence. I agree with you, we must gaze on this One, Jesus. We must be fixed on His face.

[JB482]

Originally Posted by byHismercy

I think there is a fatal flaw in looking to the 'proper ground' doctrine, Aron. How can we look away unto Jesus if you are staring at your feet, so to speak. I just can't help but think this has a disastrous spiritual consequence. I agree with you, we must gaze on this One, Jesus. We must be fixed on His face.

Beholding and reflecting the face of Jesus Christ! Amen

[aron]

Originally Posted by JB482

Beholding and reflecting the face of Jesus Christ! Amen

Here's what I posted recently on beholding the face of Jesus Christ. If you want to see Christ, hang out with those who are seeking His face. The LSM system tried to deny that basic Christian right. "We have right to the tree of Life".

Originally Posted by aron

My point is this: if you want to see the face of Christ, read the works of those who can help you see. Even those who don't agree with you, and with whom you don't agree. ... Again I say this is what Watchman Nee did - he availed himself of disparate sources. He didn't have to agree with everything. But he was willing to use different materials to help him see Christ.

Contrast this to the "sickbed theology" of LSM, who says, if any of their flock reads from other sources, they might get 'poisoned' spiritually. What an admission of weakness!

[byHismercy]

Originally Posted by aron

Here's what I posted recently on beholding the face of Jesus Christ. If you want to see Christ, hang out with those who are seeking His face. The LSM system tried to deny that basic Christian right. "We have right to the tree of Life".

And not just our right to fellowship or learn from all saints, but even which bible.....just before I left (translate that chucked out of) the LC, a sister was disgusted to learn I was reading from the KJV bible. She could not understand why I would read from THAT version....we have such a TREASURE in the footnotes....(ReC version).....when I explained the large print was better for me (one of other reasons I have) she tried her best to sell me the Recovery version large print. It was too late. I had started to smell something very fishy, as we had been culled from the herd.

Praise Jesus, saints....our freedom in Christ is the REAL kind. I love the KJV! I love all the believers! He does that in me.

byHismercy

[byHismercy]

Originally Posted by aron

Here's what I posted recently on beholding the face of Jesus Christ. If you want to see Christ, hang out with those who are seeking His face. The LSM system tried to deny that basic Christian right. "We have right to the tree of Life".

I love this encouragement, Aron....it rings true because it lines up with His word to us