Whistleblower

[Drake]

Originally Posted by JLBW

I can tell you there are many many women and girls who have been abused and harmed by "elders" and leading "brothers" in the LC and I was one of them. I was told to hush and not damage the dear sister and her family by exposing her husband's sexual misconduct with me. I was expected to submit to the brothers and I did. But I won't anymore. If you think that there are no harmed sisters just because we don't get on forums to discuss our abuse you are very deceived! The shame and humiliation that happens when you are violated sexually is more than most can bear. If you are a man you would not have any way to understand how it feels and how long it takes to heal from this type of sinful and illegal activity by "leaders" in the LC. I had no idea how much of a culture from WL and WN this was until finding this forum and now I'm even more angry. May God have mercy on every brother and leader who has covered up a sinning man and sent them away to harm other sisters in new locations. The Word is very strong in addressing this and the church should be also.

JLBW,

Who told you to hush?

Who told you to submit to the brothers in this matter specifically?

Not names... but who?

Drake

[Cal]

Originally Posted by Drake

JLBW,

Who told you to hush?

Who told you to submit to the brothers in this matter specifically?

Not names... but who?

Drake

Here we go again, gnats and camels...

Not "I'm sorry for your suffering." Not "I'm praying for your healing." But rather, "What little detail of your testimony can I slant to cast doubt on your credibility?" Gnats and camels, gnats and camels...

[UntoHim]

Come on Drake. You know very well what she means by "submit to the brothers". She is obviously talking about the elders - or should I say the elders that didn't sexually abuse her. The story about shipping the criminal out of town and silencing the victim comes right from the playbook of Witness Lee. There are several examples of this immoral and criminal shenanigans right here on this forum.
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[Drake]

Originally Posted by UntoHim

Come on Drake. You know very well what she means by "submit to the brothers". She is obviously talking about the elders - or should I say the elders that didn't sexually abuse her. The story about shipping the criminal out of town and silencing the victim comes right from the playbook of Witness Lee. There are several examples of this immoral and criminal shenanigans right here on this forum.
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No I don't UntoHim.... and I don't agree with the advice she was given. Maybe she was referring to parents, friends, family, etc. She should clarify who told her (not the actual names or localities of course). Such serious charges should be specific.

JLBW, did an elder abuse you and did the the other elders in the church advise you not to say anything? Did your parents know what happened and how did they advise you?

Furthermore, how old were you when this happened? That itself could very well add weight to what action needs to be taken.

Drake

[Cal]

Originally Posted by Drake

JLBW, did an elder abuse you and did the the other elders in the church advise you not to say anything? Did your parents know what happened and how did they advise you?

Furthermore, how old were you when this happened? That itself could very well add weight to what action needs to be taken.

Drake

Drake,

Are you high on drugs? JLBW claims to have been sexually abused by the very people you defend within an inch of your life on this board. Do you really think she wants to engage with someone like you in public? Do you understand anything about how trust works with women? Do you really think it would be psychologically healthy for her to even begin to speak to someone like you? Would you want your wife or daughter to do that? The very fact that you jump in and begin to interrogate her right out of the chute, without registering any sympathy or tenderness or anything suggesting you aren't the Johnny Cochran of the LR (who at least had enough sense to pretend to be sympathetic), is exhibit #1 of what I say about you--that there is something very, very wrong with you. Lord, help us!