I Am A Part Of The Local Church

This applies to others who have recently gone out the LC. So thank you for your pieces for advice. Except this one below.

Originally Posted by I.S

Follow the Lord in the recovery and read the ministry.

[aron]

Originally Posted by SentOutFree

This applies to others who have recently gone out of the LC. So thank you for your pieces for advice. Except this one - "Follow the Lord in the recovery and read the ministry "

The 'recovery' or 'restoration' or even -gasp- 'reformation' are all arguably misnomers. The 'fall' or 'degradation' occurred in the early chapters of Genesis (I see a series of 'falls' including Gen 6, as alluded to by Jude 1:6 and 2 Pet 2:4). The 'recovery' or 'restoration' occurred in the four gospels of the NT, at the latest in the early chapters of Acts (see Jesus' allusion to the "coming Kingdom" as initiated at Pentecost [1:6-8]). The epistles of Paul et al, up to and including the Apocalypse of John, are commentaries on and expansions of what occurred in the gospels, and don't change anything. Jesus of Nazareth is the Way. He's the King of Israel. He's Saviour of the World. There's no other name given, on earth or in heaven, by which we're to be saved. That's presented as immutable, irrevocable.

The 'ministry' concept was a vehicle, a way to lead ones into the voracious jaws of Witness Lee's circle of associates and family members. First was presented the so-called restored or recovered church. Then, this 'church' needed an 'oracle' or Deputy God, the so-called ministry of the age. Then, the ministry concept led one to imbalanced dependence on the person of that minister, and opened them up to his family: enter Philip Lee, Timothy Lee et al. The Witness Lee Mind Control Programme and Guanxi Network.

The whole thing is unbiblical and is a sham of the first order. They should teach this in high school: "Kids, you are going off to college. Irrespective of your religion or lack thereof, watch out for the cults. They'll suck out your brain and your soul." This ought to be taught, along with Algebra, Earth Science and World History. But they don't, and how many have been fooled! But the 'fall' is unchanged, and its cure. Both are still playing out today.

I would ask you to stay put and just pray for saints no matter where they meet or denominational title they go by to support you.

My main beef with LC is the following:
A tendency to judge people, criticize and think they're superior.

A lack of humility and acceptance of wrong doing, even when they have made mistakes.

You probably can't get help on many matters from leading ones in the recovery. By this I mean maters related to conflicts between saints, gaining good jobs or making career decisions and some other matters.

Still I would not recommend leaving because what would you leave to? If you can't learn the lesson of enjoying Christ in the midst of your suffering, perplexion, confusion of how some use the ministry you will miss something. In any case there isn't much food in Christianity. Of that I am convinced.

[UntoHim]

Originally Posted by I.S

because what would you leave to?

Oh, I don't know....maybe to someplace that does not teach that Witness Lee was the only person speaking as God's oracle on earth? Maybe someplace that does not teach that man is becoming God in life and nature. Maybe someplace that does not teach that "Protestantism is christless" and that the denominations are the daughters of the Great Whore.

I.S., this leaves a lot of places for Anon to go to! Wouldn't you agree?

Originally Posted by I.S

In any case there isn't much food in Christianity. Of that I am convinced.

So you're like Witness Lee then...you are omnipresent and omniscient - you know for a fact that there isn't much food outside of the Local Church? I.S. how did you come to obtain these divine powers? Did you Pray-Read Lee messages and Call on The Lord for 40 days and 40 nights or something like that? Let us know - inquiring minds want to know!
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[manna-man]

Originally Posted by I.S

I would ask you to stay put and just pray for saints no matter where they meet or denominational title they go by to support you.

My main beef with LC is the following:
A tendency to judge people, criticize and think they're superior.

A lack of humility and acceptance of wrong doing, even when they have made mistakes.

You probably can't get help on many matters from leading ones in the recovery. By this I mean maters related to conflicts between saints, gaining good jobs or making career decisions and some other matters.

Still I would not recommend leaving because what would you leave to? If you can't learn the lesson of enjoying Christ in the midst of your suffering, perplexion, confusion of how some use the ministry you will miss something. In any case there isn't much food in Christianity. Of that I am convinced.

I.S
Consider this verse

Luke 23:34*King James Version (KJV)

34*Then said Jesus, Father, forgive them; for they know not what they do. And they parted his raiment, and cast lots.

Then said I.S

I would ask you to stay put and just pray for saints no matter where they meet or denominational title they go by to support you.

We can see your willingness to pray for the
saints. That's admirable.

When we consider Luke 23:34 how is it that there in no consideration for those in the world?
I ask this because of your following quote:

"In any case there isn't much food in Christianity. Of that I am convinced."

There is a disconnect here..