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Originally Posted by Ohio
I understand the distinction ZNP is speaking of here, having discussed this on numerous occasions. But now, I am no longer certain that paradise has not been taken into heaven. (Eph 4)
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There is also Paul's quote where he says he was "caught up into Paradise" so I also don't think it is clear. I think our unregistered guest has a clear word on that based on the earlier post so hopefully they will clear this all up.
Also, I personally never liked using the thief on the cross for this teaching because he obviously predated the Lord's ascension followed by the outpouring of the Spirit. So just as other verses suggest that things may have changed with regards to paradise I don't think it is all sound to base a teaching on what happens with believers in this age with his story.