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Old 11-12-2016, 03:15 AM   #331
ZNPaaneah
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Default Re: Politics and the Church

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Originally Posted by zeek View Post
Not- my- president" Democrat Whiner says :"I don't want to see trickle-down racism...
I don't want to see a president of the United States saying things which change the character of the generations of Americans that are following.
Presidents have an impact on the nature of our nation, and
  • trickle-down racism,
  • trickle-down bigotry,
  • trickle-down misogyny,
all these things are extraordinarily dangerous to the heart and character of America."

I think he makes a good point. What do you say?
I agree that a President may have more influence than many other people, perhaps not as much as a rap star, or hollywood star, or basketball star, but still they do have some influence.

What I don't get is this whole portrayal that saying you will shut off immigration from countries we are at war with (and if you determine that this is a religious war then it stands to reason that comes into play) is racist and bigoted.

What I don't get is saying that you are going to round up people who are here illegally, focusing on those who are not only here illegally but also committing crimes, and send them back to their country of origin is racist and bigoted. What is the point of having laws if you don't enforce them? When Teddy Roosevelt was police commissioner of NYC he enforced laws against drinking on Sunday. This was very unpopular. But his point was that the way to deal with an unpopular law is to change it. By keeping the law and not enforcing it you were promoting corruption.

As for the misogyny Trump is guilty.

But then JZ and Beyonce are on the stage with Clinton and you realize how can that be a reason to pick her? She surrounds herself with rapists (Bill), perverts (Weiner) and rap stars.

People confuse the issue, there was no backlash or whitelash for Trump, he received fewer votes than Romney. Half the people who voted for Trump said that it was primarily a vote against Clinton rather than for Trump. The reason Clinton lost the Electoral College vote was due to 500,000 people. she received 8 million votes less than Obama and think of the advantages she had. She should have motivated women to come out and vote, a much bigger group than blacks. She was backed by Obama, Beyonce and Lebron James, you would think that would also help pick up the black vote. She spent twice as much as Trump on her campaign and by all accounts had a very well run organization, and yet couldn't get people to come out and vote for her.

The reason you have a primary is so that you get the candidate that the party supports, they short circuited that process and paid for it.

Also, this whole fear mongering about Trump's temperament. The unspoken he is like Hitler. If we had had wikileaks at the time of Hitler he never would have become the maniacal killer. There were numerous people in very high places who tried to put a stop to him, with Wikileaks the whole world would have known about many of his issues years earlier. That would have derailed him.
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