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Old 10-04-2018, 07:05 AM   #1
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I've seen the man have a temper tantrum and act disrespectfully towards United States Senators especially female ones. I imagine he's worse when he's inebriated. Kavanaugh should have watched video tapes of Clarence Thomas's response to the Senate when he was accused of sexual harassment. Unlike Kavanaugh when Thomas defended himself he displayed an attitude of respect toward the co equal branch of government, and maintained a demeanor of decorum and gravitas.
Why is it that any push back against the Democrats is considered inappropriate?

If you no longer suspect Kavanaugh of sexual misconduct, shouldn't you be meekly seeking his forgiveness for these horrible accusations rather than whining about how he defended himself?

Zeek, most people can forgive occasional mistakes, but you lose all credibility when you side with endless and baseless attacks without ever making things right.

And btw are you still clinging to the Russian collusion hoax? You got hundreds of posts to recant, my friend.
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And btw are you still clinging to the Russian collusion hoax? You got hundreds of posts to recant, my friend.
Maybe you should start a new thread -- Posts I regret
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Maybe you should start a new thread -- Posts I regret
Kav is in. Bet that won't be on that thread.
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Kav is in. Bet that won't be on that thread.
Democrats are angry there is only 1 copy to view. Clearly that is a response to previous leaks of confidential documents. They are simply reaping what they sowed in not being trustworthy.

Democrats are angry that Kavanaugh and Ford were not questioned. Really? If Ford had anything more to say she should have said it during the hearing. If there was anything based on what Ford said and Kavanaugh responded with as well as any of the other people questioned that would support her testimony it might have meant they would need to question him. Clearly there wasn't.

Finally a sober minded assessment of what is and what is not a crime. I doubt the FBI is called in very often to investigate teenage drinking from 36 years previously without a crime. Second, it is very difficult to see from Ford's testimony that there is the accusation of a crime, and even if you give her that much it seems clear to me that there was no corroboration of the "criminal allegation".

Finally, was his outburst a sign of lacking the right "disposition" or is it the outrage at the ridiculousness of even pursuing these allegations without evidence or corroborating witnesses?
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Democrats are angry there is only 1 copy to view. Clearly that is a response to previous leaks of confidential documents. They are simply reaping what they sowed in not being trustworthy.

Democrats are angry that Kavanaugh and Ford were not questioned. Really? If Ford had anything more to say she should have said it during the hearing. If there was anything based on what Ford said and Kavanaugh responded with as well as any of the other people questioned that would support her testimony it might have meant they would need to question him. Clearly there wasn't.

Finally a sober minded assessment of what is and what is not a crime. I doubt the FBI is called in very often to investigate teenage drinking from 36 years previously without a crime. Second, it is very difficult to see from Ford's testimony that there is the accusation of a crime, and even if you give her that much it seems clear to me that there was no corroboration of the "criminal allegation".

Finally, was his outburst a sign of lacking the right "disposition" or is it the outrage at the ridiculousness of even pursuing these allegations without evidence or corroborating witnesses?
No reason to carry on. Kav is in.
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Maybe you should start a new thread -- Posts I regret
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Why is it that any push back against the Democrats is considered inappropriate?

If you no longer suspect Kavanaugh of sexual misconduct, shouldn't you be meekly seeking his forgiveness for these horrible accusations rather than whining about how he defended himself?

Zeek, most people can forgive occasional mistakes, but you lose all credibility when you side with endless and baseless attacks without ever making things right.

And btw are you still clinging to the Russian collusion hoax? You got hundreds of posts to recant, my friend.
It's easy for me to forgive Kavanaugh. After all he didn't jump my bones. I think he lacks the judicial disposition to be on the Supreme Court. And he displayed an animus toward Democratic Senators that I think it is safe to assume will prejudice his decisions going forward. Plus, I believe Christine Ford. Show me the posts I need to recant. Or are you just blowing smoke again?
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It's easy for me to forgive Kavanaugh. After all he didn't jump my bones. I think he lacks the judicial disposition to be on the Supreme Court. And he displayed an animus toward Democratic Senators that I think it is safe to assume will prejudice his decisions going forward. Plus, I believe Christine Ford. Show me the posts I need to recant. Or are you just blowing smoke again?
Disregarding your gutter smear ...

I do hope you are right about about Coach K's decisions going forward. Fiery trials of faith and character have a way of affecting one's thinking going forward. Look what happened to Clarence Thomas. I think these two justices may become like-minded, and Thomas is the only justice in SCOTUS history not to become more liberal over time.

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Show me the posts I need to recant. Or are you just blowing smoke again?
Apparently your memory skills are right up there with Ford, Ramirez, and Swetnick, so I doubt if I could help you out.
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Disregarding your gutter smear ...

I do hope you are right about about Coach K's decisions going forward. Fiery trials of faith and character have a way of affecting one's thinking going forward. Look what happened to Clarence Thomas. I think these two justices may become like-minded, and Thomas is the only justice in SCOTUS history not to become more liberal over time.


Apparently your memory skills are right up there with Ford, Ramirez, and Swetnick, so I doubt if I could help you out.
And that is the risk of this entire enterprise. If you "win" it appears worth the risk, but if you lose he is now forged in the fire of the Democrats hypocrisy and lies.
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And that is the risk of this entire enterprise. If you "win" it appears worth the risk, but if you lose he is now forged in the fire of the Democrats hypocrisy and lies.
Remember when Obama shamed the Supreme Court at the SOTU Address?

He singed Samuel Alito for life. He never again went to Obama's show.

Looking back, Obama's comments about "opening the floodgates of special interests and foreign corporations to spend without limits in our election," one cannot help but think about the $145 Million Russian Rosatom Atomic Energy gave to the Clinton Foundation. And millions more for a few speeches.
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Remember when Obama shamed the Supreme Court at the SOTU Address?

He singed Samuel Alito for life. He never again went to Obama's show.

Looking back, Obama's comments about "opening the floodgates of special interests and foreign corporations to spend without limits in our election," one cannot help but think about the $145 Million Russian Rosatom Atomic Energy gave to the Clinton Foundation. And millions more for a few speeches.
Let's impeach them.
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Collins: fairness and presumption of innocence.

Two very good points.
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It's easy for me to forgive Kavanaugh. After all he didn't jump my bones. I think he lacks the judicial disposition to be on the Supreme Court. And he displayed an animus toward Democratic Senators that I think it is safe to assume will prejudice his decisions going forward. Plus, I believe Christine Ford. Show me the posts I need to recant. Or are you just blowing smoke again?
If the past few weeks is any guide Senators will vote along strict party lines unless there is evidence uncovered in the FBI probe of lying under oath or of any other crime.
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