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Old 08-26-2021, 06:37 AM   #1
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Today's Witness Wednesday Quote:

Likewise, the Father, the Son, and Spirit are not three Gods, but three stages of one God for us to possess and enjoy.

This exactly defines Modalism, the heresy WL was long criticized about. His own words convict him.
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Old 08-26-2021, 11:01 PM   #2
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Today's Witness Wednesday Quote:

Likewise, the Father, the Son, and Spirit are not three Gods, but three stages of one God for us to possess and enjoy.

This exactly defines Modalism, the heresy WL was long criticized about. His own words convict him.
I guess I missed this WL quote last Wednesday, what was the reference?
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Old 08-27-2021, 06:03 AM   #3
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Here is what was posted on the last Witness Wednesday module:

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“In the heavens, where man cannot see Him, God is the Father; when He is expressed among men, He is the Son; and when He comes into men, He is the Spirit. The Father was expressed among men in the Son, and the Son became the Spirit to come into men. The Father is in the Son, and the Son became the Spirit—the three are just one God.”
Concerning The Triune God - Witness Lee

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"Like wise, the Father, the Son, and Spirit are not three Gods, but three stages of one God for us to possess and enjoy."
Concerning the Triune God - Witness Lee
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Concerning the Triune God - LSM
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The term three persons does not exist in the Scriptures but is added by men in their interpretation. Since they cannot say that the three—the Father, the Son, and the Spirit—are three Gods, what else can they say? So the designation three persons is used. Actually, to use the designation three persons to explain the Father, the Son, and the Spirit is also not quite satisfactory, because three persons really means three persons.
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Old 09-08-2021, 08:28 PM   #4
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Wow. This exactly expresses the view I had of LSM when I left. Isn't it amazing how they were "judged the way they judged others?"
Today everything in Protestant Christianity is dead or is dying. This is not my word but the word of the Lord Jesus. Then, in Revelation 3:20 the Lord Jesus was knocking on the door of the church in Laodicea, indicating that He was outside the church in Laodicea. Thus, the church in Laodicea, a prefigure of the degraded Brethren assemblies as part of today’s Protestantism, is christless. This is the actual situation of today’s Christianity. On the one hand, the Protestant churches are dead or are dying in spiritual things. On the other hand, they claim to preach Christ, but they do not have Christ actually living within them.
I literally spent years, hundreds of exhausting messages, attending LSM trainings and enduring dead, lifeless, esoteric, and tasteless doctrines. God is my witness, how rarely I heard some anointed word from their podium.

Nearly every Christian message I have heard in "poor, poor, Christianity" had more anointing Spirit than whole trainings at LSM.
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Old 09-22-2021, 09:14 AM   #5
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However, if you live the church life, the very Christ whom you offer to God will heal you. He is better than any psychiatrist. Do not go to a psychiatrist—come to Christ and offer Him to God. Then you will be healthy, sober, and emotionally balanced.
Wow. Another cringe-worthy quote from Lee.

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Old 10-07-2021, 05:39 AM   #6
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I can testify that I am happy every day in my home, but often I am not that happy. But I am guaranteed to be happy when I come to the meeting. In my fifty years in the church life I cannot remember a meeting in which I was miserable. I was miserable sometimes in my home, but I do not remember even once being miserable in the meeting. Witness Lee Collected Works, 1982, Vol. 1, LSM, p. 485
This is the way it works when you are in control of what happens in the meetings. But, if you are unable, or choose not, to control the behavior of your sons "at home", it might make a miserable "home life."

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WL: God does not intend for us to do anything for Him. As God's children, we need to change our concept and see that God's only desire is to give Himself to us to be our enjoyment. The secret of the Christian life is not how much we work for Him, but how much we enjoy him. It is not what we do for Him, but how we enjoy him. We must learn this secret. There is no need for us to worry about doing this or that. We need to learn to simply turn our inner being to enjoy God. When we pray, there is no need for us to be concerned about our difficulties and burdens, such as a seriously ill child. We need to learn to come to God to enjoy and absorb Him, and forget about everything, even a child's illness.

How to Enjoy God and How to Practice the Enjoyment of God
"This book is composed of messages given by Brother Witness Lee in March 1958 in Taipei, Taiwan."
Contrast this cringeworthy statement with the Overcomer teaching!
Perhaps this is the origin of the disastrous “if you take care of the church, God will take care of your children.” …not even a seriously ill adult, but a sick child. He certainly didn’t raise up his own children to be godly men.

Why did he show such callousness toward children…even sick children?
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