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The Local Church in the 21st Century Observations and Discussions regarding the Local Church Movement in the Here and Now |
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Aren't the believers "the church"? Aren't the believers "the body"? How in Ron's addled mind can something be the father of itself? "God being the father is not practical"??? Right, so let's elbow ol' impractical God aside and put the local church body father in his place......I give up. Trapped |
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Interesting. Evidence of their blasphemy is presented to the public and their reaction is to reel it in so no one can examine it anymore. What a shame. LOL
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LSM took it off.
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Yes Bible Teacher, that link is no longer working because the LSM watchdogs destroyed my YouTube channel. And I was just trying to help them avoid problems at the judgment seat of Christ. Where's the gratitude?
Anyway, here is a link to that same video on my new MendingMinistry channel: https://www.bitchute.com/video/WmN5RqLbukCw/ Enjoy! P.S.
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Yeah, and LSM took it away once more as well. However we do have the original audio.
Here is a link to the audio recording where Ron Kangas was speaking those words. The really crazy talk begins at approx 58 minutes: https://www.blendedbody.com/_cl/_aud...Lima2007m1.mp3 And thanks to Trapped, we also have a transcript of Ron's nonsensical heresy: "I have a very pleasant question to ask. At least, I think it's pleasant. Who is the father of the local churches? Just consider. You may say, "well, God is the Father." Yes, but that's not that practical. Then you may say, "well the apostles, they're the father." Well, apparently, that's right. But the apostles represent the Body of Christ. The Body is the father of the churches. Whenever a genuine local church is raised up, the body-father is involved. Oh, and the father loves all of his little children! And he has feelings for them all. Oh look at this one, he looks like me! And that one, he looks like me! They all look like me! All the churches look like the body! Now I'm in Peru. I've never been in Peru. But I feel at home in Peru. Because there's a real, genuine expression of the Body of Christ in Lima, Peru. I don't have time this visit to go to chiclayo. But I know in my spirit it's the same. I know what's in your heart. That all you want to be is part of the Body of Christ! And the Body says Amen! The enemy wants you to be part of a system, with a hierarchy. But Christ the Head of the Body does not agree. All the genuine local churches in Peru are part of the Body of Christ. Any church that is not part of the Body is not a genuine local church but a sect." But anything goes with these Idol worshipers of Witness Lee who strive in vain to keep Their Inherited Evil Empire from crumbling... P.S.
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Therefore seeing we have this ministry, even as we obtained mercy, we faint not; but we have renounced the hidden things of shame, not walking in craftiness, nor handling the word of God deceitfully; but by the manifestation of the truth commending ourselves to every man's conscience in the sight of God. [2 Cor 4:1-2 ASV] - Our YouTube Channel - OUR WEBSITES - OUR FAVORITE SONG, ''I Abdicate'' |
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what dis Jesus say about "the blind leading the blind"
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This is what happens when Sola Scriptura is changed in meaning; LSM publications are now the final authority for Christian doctrine instead of the Bible.
Churches that are not "Of Lee" are considered invalid and quarantined. Instead of the Son of Man, LSM agents are now walking in the midst of the churches removing lampstands. God the Father is not practical for the body; Meaning the Father is impractical or nonviable. Another synonym is unsuitable. This is a great offense to our dear Father. For we know that we have the Spirit of His Son in our hearts crying "Abba! Father!". Whatever this "body" is only the Lord and Satan knows. According to the Father's word there is only ONE Body and that includes all the true believers around the world, past, present and those to come. This other body is without question a cosmic counterfeit and borderlines on heresy. Ron seems to think he has the mind of Christ, he should have but he traded it in for the mind of Lee a very long time ago. But give him credit where credit is due: Yes Ron, Christ the head of the REAL body, His Body, definitely does not agree with you. Last edited by NewManLiving; 01-13-2025 at 05:52 PM. Reason: added missing sentence |
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That’s just a further proof, that the LC has their own jesus, own version of the father, and well, I won’t even go into the whole spirit issue. God of the Bible, is nowhere to be found, just the biblical vocabulary taken for recruitment purposes, otherwise this thing will fall on its face. It’s kind of like riding a bicycle, if you stop pedaling, it will just tip over, unless you’re going downhill!
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