Please Keep Benson Phillips and his Family in your Thoughts and Prayers

[I tell the truth]

No mention of Benson's condition was mentioned tonight in the prayer meeting. Quite a few coworkers have had serious health problems in the last few years or died. Andrew Yu died and Dick Taylor had a stroke and hasn't spoken a message since. Three other coworkers died as well.

Minoru has also had heath problems but he doesn't really talk about it in the conferences and trainings. I don't remember what health problems Ed had but in the training last month he mentioned how he gets tired and weak suddenly and needs to call on the Lord with brothers to get enliven.

I think the last five years there has been talk back and forth of preparing the next generation to bring Jesus back and or just bringing Him back now.

A side note for Ron, when his wife died his children l had to go to the house every night because he didn't know how to do general tasks like cook or operate a dish washer. He spoke all this in a message. After he got remarried I saw him at a conference with his new wife. They sat down at breakfast and didn't say anything. She then got up and got his plate from the buffet. As they ate they still didn't speak. But after messages she would run up to him excited. Just my observation. She came from Russia and won the search to be his wife as the brothers searched for and interviewed many to possibly be his wife.

[Truthseeker]

Originally Posted by I tell the truth

No mention of Benson's condition was mentioned tonight in the prayer meeting. Quite a few coworkers have had serious health problems in the last few years or died. Andrew Yu died and Dick Taylor had a stroke and hasn't spoken a message since. Three other coworkers died as well.

Minoru has also had heath problems but he doesn't really talk about it in the conferences and trainings. I don't remember what health problems Ed had but in the training last month he mentioned how he gets tired and weak suddenly and needs to call on the Lord with brothers to get enliven.

I think the last five years there has been talk back and forth of preparing the next generation to bring Jesus back and or just bringing Him back now.

A side note for Ron, when his wife died his children l had to go to the house every night because he didn't know how to do general tasks like cook or operate a dish washer. He spoke all this in a message. After he got remarried I saw him at a conference with his new wife. They sat down at breakfast and didn't say anything. She then got up and got his plate from the buffet. As they ate they still didn't speak. But after messages she would run up to him excited. Just my observation. She came from Russia and won the search to be his wife as the brothers searched for and interviewed many to possibly be his wife.

Yeah, each one you mentioned here are the ones who worked with Lee during his lifetime before Lee's passing away in 1997.
I don't know what will happen with LSM and local churches if people who were with Lee all pass away and a generation who is never with Lee rise up and take over the church. What will happen with LSM in the next generation? I can't imagine. Will there be reform or will they seek a new way (not the one which caused division in 1980) and correct their faults? I can't figure out what will happen to LSM.

[Trapped]

Originally Posted by Truthseeker

Yeah, each one you mentioned here are the ones who worked with Lee during his lifetime before Lee's passing away in 1997.
I don't know what will happen with LSM and local churches if people who were with Lee all pass away and a generation who is never with Lee rise up and take over the church. What will happen with LSM in the next generation? I can't imagine. Will there be reform or will they seek a new way (not the one which caused division in 1980) and correct their faults? I can't figure out what will happen to LSM.

There are already some younger (relatively) co-workers who have joined the co-worker group who are not the "originals" who were with Witness Lee. They are uber allegiant to the ministry and uber deferential and kowtowing to the senior co-workers, which I'm sure is why they got brought on in the first place. My personal opinion is that the culture will simply remain and as the original Lee co-workers pass away, the ones that remain as time goes on will simply stay in the same old well-worn rut of what they think is "spiritual deference" to the Baaaaahdy, and they will all thus be a group of guys all unable to say what they really think with each other because they have all been trained that to do so is the most terrifying thing that could happen.

Even though all the ones who started the lie are dead now.

If you watch any of the Leah Remini Scientology series, one thing that struck me was that IT IS POSSIBLE to be a senior level guy in a terrible group, with a seared conscience abusing and harassing people and yet.......still be able to change, repent, see the error in how you behaved and thought, and go around saying to the world that you were wrong, that you are grieved by what you did and the damage you caused people, and to make sure others know the truth of the organization. Mike Rinder was a top guy in Scientology and has done all those things.

And do you know who hates him now? Not the people he mistreated and harassed, because he's actually apologized. He now calls many of his victims his friends. It's the other side, the leaders, the scientologists who turned their backs on him.

Co-workers - it's never too late.

Trapped