Vessels To Contain God?

Trapped · 12-30-2022, 05:50 PM

Hi Unregistered,

Thanks for these verses. Not sure if you are the same unregistered as before?

There is no doubt that we as believers are supposed to grow and mature, and "grow up into Him", but I don't see that the Bible ever calls this "growth in life" or "growing in life". If you google that phrase, the majority of the results are specifically local church ministry related sites. None of the verses above reference "life".

Unless I and many others have vastly misunderstood what was spoken in the local church, when saints say "grow in life", they are not talking about their human life. They are not saying like "I've done a lot of growing in my life", but are saying more like "grow in the divine life", or, as I noted in a previous post "gaining more life".

Another way to put it would be to say "growth in life" in the local church does not mean WE have grown; rather it means that "life" has grown. Indeed, many a saint has said "I need more life" or "I don't have enough life" or "I want to gain more life!"

But that's my issue. The Bible doesn't speak of life this way. After our initial salvation, we don't get "more of life" as believers. It isn't something we gain more of, or something we lose some of. If you have the Son, you have the life. That's it. If you have Him, you have it. If you lament a lack of life, then you are doubting your salvation. If you want more life.......well, how can you want more life? If you have the Son, you HAVE the life! And John 10:10 says He came so we would have it in abundance! So why would you want more life....are you saying Son isn't enough? It doesn't make sense to me. It sounds too much at that point like "life" means something else that the Bible doesn't mean.

Not sure if that helps clarify my point or not?

Trapped

12-30-2022, 05:50 PM	#1
Trapped Member Join Date: Mar 2018 Posts: 1,523	Re: Vessels To Contain God? Hi Unregistered, Thanks for these verses. Not sure if you are the same unregistered as before? There is no doubt that we as believers are supposed to grow and mature, and "grow up into Him", but I don't see that the Bible ever calls this "growth in life" or "growing in life". If you google that phrase, the majority of the results are specifically local church ministry related sites. None of the verses above reference "life". Unless I and many others have vastly misunderstood what was spoken in the local church, when saints say "grow in life", they are not talking about their human life. They are not saying like "I've done a lot of growing in my life", but are saying more like "grow in the divine life", or, as I noted in a previous post "gaining more life". Another way to put it would be to say "growth in life" in the local church does not mean WE have grown; rather it means that "life" has grown. Indeed, many a saint has said "I need more life" or "I don't have enough life" or "I want to gain more life!" But that's my issue. The Bible doesn't speak of life this way. After our initial salvation, we don't get "more of life" as believers. It isn't something we gain more of, or something we lose some of. If you have the Son, you have the life. That's it. If you have Him, you have it. If you lament a lack of life, then you are doubting your salvation. If you want more life.......well, how can you want more life? If you have the Son, you HAVE the life! And John 10:10 says He came so we would have it in abundance! So why would you want more life....are you saying Son isn't enough? It doesn't make sense to me. It sounds too much at that point like "life" means something else that the Bible doesn't mean. Not sure if that helps clarify my point or not? Trapped