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Old 07-28-2012, 09:32 AM   #1
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My two cents worth input: One verse props up after reading these comments. ESV Proverbs 27:5 - "Better is open rebuke than hidden love." Furthermore bros, as Bro Nee had said in his later ministry, "The church may even be wrong, but the Lord is never wrong"

We should just move on...
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Old 07-28-2012, 08:11 PM   #2
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Move on to where? This is exactly the question that John Myer has tried to answer in A Future and A Hope. A future and a hope of what? - Life "beyond the Local Church Movement".

I know this is not exactly biblical....but
"you can't know where you're going until you know where you've been"

Yes, we should just move on....but not just for the sake of moving on. There needs to be a purpose...there needs to be a future and a hope. Also some of us feel an obligation to let current and prospective Local Church members know the truth regarding the teachings, practices and history of the Movement.
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Old 07-29-2012, 07:23 PM   #3
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My two cents worth input: One verse props up after reading these comments. ESV Proverbs 27:5 - "Better is open rebuke than hidden love." Furthermore bros, as Bro Nee had said in his later ministry, "The church may even be wrong, but the Lord is never wrong"

We should just move on...
Those held in fear via manipulative teachings can never "move on" until they are once again set free.

But let's look at this verse and it's companion verse 27.6 ...
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An open rebuke is better than hidden love, Wounds from a sincere friend are better than many kisses from an enemy.
This verse never condones rebukes or wounds, rather this verse is a warning to God's people not to be deceived by those who would take advantage of you. These are great principles of life, not to be fooled by these with smooth and flattering words. The saddest thing about the abusive ways of LC leaders is that they have often convinced us that their endless rebukes were really "love."
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My two cents worth input: One verse props up after reading these comments. ESV Proverbs 27:5 - "Better is open rebuke than hidden love."
That's what this forum is partially about: Open rebuke. So what's the problem you are having with that?

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Furthermore bros, as Bro Nee had said in his later ministry, "The church may even be wrong, but the Lord is never wrong"
Which is why sometimes we have to side with the Lord, not the church.

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We should just move on...
"We should just move on" is LC code for "shut up and don't rock the boat."

This isn't about dwelling on the past. It's about helping those who are having a hard time moving on. At least when Jesus told people to get up and walk he healed them first. What help are you offering?
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