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Old 12-01-2012, 12:20 PM   #1
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Now none of those saints have to claim to be the "o" oracle in order for us to listen to them. How does saying that he is the "oracle" of God mean anything? If he is saying that others are not the "oracle" of God then isn't that a contradiction to what you just said? And if he is saying that all the gifts and all the members of the God speak as the "oracle" of God then why do you need to say that you are the "oracle" of God?
Thank you ZNP, this was my question exaclty.
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Old 12-02-2012, 09:56 AM   #2
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The Bible commands all speakers to speak as the oracles of God. (1 Pet 4:11). It means, essentially, if you intend to speak for God make sure you are really speaking God's word.

So every preacher, teacher, etc., in the world should speak as the oracles of God. So, Lee, by saying he had not heard the oracle of God in anyone since 1945 was saying that he had heard no one speaking God's word during that time but him. What a ridiculous claim that was!

This is what you are dealing with in Lee. A gifted man of great insight in some areas, who was completely clueless in others. This is why, I believe, he's been largely ignored by the Church at large. He's too inconsistent. There is so much variance in the reliability of his teaching that finally you just say he's not worth the risk. It's a shame, but he brought it on himself.
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Old 12-02-2012, 10:36 AM   #3
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So, Lee, by saying he had not heard the oracle of God in anyone since 1945 was saying that he had heard no one speaking God's word during that time but him. What a ridiculous claim that was!
"Even though Christianity has not published any spiritual books of weight for the past thirty-nine years, the Lord has released many riches among us." (Crucial words of leading for the Lord’s recovery, Book 3: the future of the Lord’s Recovery and the building up of the organic service, chapter 7, Witness Lee)

and also

"However, for the past thirty or more years there has been no real progress in Christianity." (Crucial words of leading for the Lord’s recovery, Book 3: the future of the Lord’s Recovery and the building up of the organic service, chapter 7, Witness Lee)

Compare
Proverbs 1:7 The fear of the LORD is the beginning of knowledge: but fools despise wisdom and instruction.

with

8:13 The fear of the LORD is to hate evil: pride, and arrogancy, and the evil way, and the froward mouth, do I hate.
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Old 12-02-2012, 05:15 PM   #4
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The Bible commands all speakers to speak as the oracles of God. (1 Pet 4:11). It means, essentially, if you intend to speak for God make sure you are really speaking God's word.

So every preacher, teacher, etc., in the world should speak as the oracles of God. So, Lee, by saying he had not heard the oracle of God in anyone since 1945 was saying that he had heard no one speaking God's word during that time but him. What a ridiculous claim that was!
Based on Igzy's quote, all brothers in attendance at that conference were oracles of God. Further you can go to www.sermonindex.net or www.christiantapeministry.com and find messages of many of God's oracles. Some of whom Witness Lee did know and many of whom we have heard if not have listened to at one time or another.
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