The Building and a Bride in the Bible

Cal · 02-11-2013, 08:24 AM

Indiana,

Although I'm all for unity, I do not see that the Bible teaches that the house of God should be build on the "proper ground" and that ground is unity. The Bible teaches that dwelling together in unity is "good and pleasant" and receives a blessing of the Spirit. But the idea that unity is the ground on which the church is built, I do not see that teaching in the Word.

Please point me to the verses that teach this.

If you google "ground of the church" you will only find references to it from either Lee or his followers. I don't see any other significant Christian teacher that teaches this idea. This should be a red flag. After fifty years in this country, no one has picked it up. Yet, there is a strong movement for genuine unity among Christians now, even in cities. Our pastor has taught on this. But he doesn't teach "the proper ground of oneness," and with good reason. It's an open invitation to another "we have the right stand, you don't" movement.

A few years ago I felt I got a strong speaking from the Lord. I wondered, as I've been doing aloud again recently, why the LC got such a blessing if they were wrong. I felt the Lord said to me, "The desire for genuine oneness pleased me. But they went about it wrong."

I didn't understand so much then, but over time it's become clearer. The focus on locality, the claims of being the Church in such-and-such-city in anything but the most general terms, was wrong.

Yes, Nee and Lee were men of God... and they also were just men. And so are you and I. There are many other Christian men and women of God who have lived and served and gone to be with the Lord who you never heard of. Many of these saw unity as clear or clearer than Nee and Lee did. The only difference is they did not start movements.

I still feel there is a lot of uncalled for hero worship with you toward Nee and especially Lee which you do not need in order to carry on. And I don't believe that is healthy. It just seems you are waving the Nee/Lee flag instead of the Jesus flag. I understand a little pushback toward this board. But, honestly, is that all it is?

02-11-2013, 08:24 AM	#11
Cal Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: USA Posts: 4,333	Re: Up from Babylon Indiana, Although I'm all for unity, I do not see that the Bible teaches that the house of God should be build on the "proper ground" and that ground is unity. The Bible teaches that dwelling together in unity is "good and pleasant" and receives a blessing of the Spirit. But the idea that unity is the ground on which the church is built, I do not see that teaching in the Word. Please point me to the verses that teach this. If you google "ground of the church" you will only find references to it from either Lee or his followers. I don't see any other significant Christian teacher that teaches this idea. This should be a red flag. After fifty years in this country, no one has picked it up. Yet, there is a strong movement for genuine unity among Christians now, even in cities. Our pastor has taught on this. But he doesn't teach "the proper ground of oneness," and with good reason. It's an open invitation to another "we have the right stand, you don't" movement. A few years ago I felt I got a strong speaking from the Lord. I wondered, as I've been doing aloud again recently, why the LC got such a blessing if they were wrong. I felt the Lord said to me, "The desire for genuine oneness pleased me. But they went about it wrong." I didn't understand so much then, but over time it's become clearer. The focus on locality, the claims of being the Church in such-and-such-city in anything but the most general terms, was wrong. Yes, Nee and Lee were men of God... and they also were just men. And so are you and I. There are many other Christian men and women of God who have lived and served and gone to be with the Lord who you never heard of. Many of these saw unity as clear or clearer than Nee and Lee did. The only difference is they did not start movements. I still feel there is a lot of uncalled for hero worship with you toward Nee and especially Lee which you do not need in order to carry on. And I don't believe that is healthy. It just seems you are waving the Nee/Lee flag instead of the Jesus flag. I understand a little pushback toward this board. But, honestly, is that all it is?