LiveStrong and A-Rod

[OBW]

Originally Posted by Nell

There was a lot of stuff. I'm thinking more about the blatant stuff like this:
"Don't say anything negative." What are they really saying? "Shut up and don't ask questions." The opposite of Acts 17:11.

The problem is that they never just said "don't say anything negative." It was always surrounded by verses that were claimed to be guiding principles on the subject (or manipulated into sounding like it), along with one or more of Lee's stories that were supposed to prove that the principle he claims was true.

How often did we fail to realize that it was the story told that really made the point and not the scripture? In fact, the scripture too often did not get us there. If it weren't for the story, we might never have bought it. So we dismissed the lack of support in the scripture and instead let some tailor-made story convince us of what the scripture could not.

Yeah, we were cooked. "That one's well done. Put him on the plate. That's the way the MOTA likes em."

[rayliotta]

Originally Posted by OBW

The problem is that they never just said "don't say anything negative." It was always surrounded by verses that were claimed to be guiding principles on the subject (or manipulated into sounding like it), along with one or more of Lee's stories that were supposed to prove that the principle he claims was true.

True, however, sometimes it's a pretty cut and dry message.

You may be right, but you're dead right.

God doesn't care about right and wrong. God cares about life!

Et cetera.

Originally Posted by OBW

How often did we fail to realize that it was the story told that really made the point and not the scripture? In fact, the scripture too often did not get us there. If it weren't for the story, we might never have bought it. So we dismissed the lack of support in the scripture and instead let some tailor-made story convince us of what the scripture could not.

This echoes the point I was making re the gopher of ambition. As others have pointed out, Witness Lee was referring to gophers tunneling in his yard. But in the environment which is the Lord's Recovery, what could have been simply "pastoral anecdotes" got blown way out of proportion and become nearly scriptural. Case in point -- the very fact that so many of us even remember that particular example so many years later. Witness Lee's parables often became almost on a par w/scriptural parables.

Originally Posted by OBW

Yeah, we were cooked. "That one's well done. Put him on the plate. That's the way the MOTA likes em."

Yum...