Good vs. Lee's Trees

[awareness]

Originally Posted by Ohio

awareness, I don't think they were "sleeping."

And to this day it completely and utterly blows my mind that sisters, married or otherwise, could ever do such a thing. I honesty thought they were like angels. Alas, they were human too.

[Freedom]

Originally Posted by awareness

And to this day it completely and utterly blows my mind that sisters, married or otherwise, could ever do such a thing. I honesty thought they were like angels. Alas, they were human too.

In certain respects, I think the LC sets members up for failure, by pushing the notion that they're somehow immune to failure. So what happens when humans turn out to be "human"? You see denial and cover-ups to avoid the shame.

[OBW]

Originally Posted by awareness

And to this day it completely and utterly blows my mind that sisters, married or otherwise, could ever do such a thing. I honesty thought they were like angels. Alas, they were human too.

While in the whole of the sordid details of PL's sins there was probably a bit of human frailty in all of it. But I think that there was an implied authority in PL that he used over them. He was "the ministry office" and all of the LC's followed the ministry and its office. That made him virtually a gatekeeper for the Grand Poobah of the whole thing. People that are too enamored with their leader can be convinced to do things that they wouldn't give a second thought to in any other circumstances. And Lee was next in line for participation in the trinity if one of them managed to die.

Looks like a personality cult with all the trimmings.

[HERn]

Originally Posted by awareness

And to this day it completely and utterly blows my mind that sisters, married or otherwise, could ever do such a thing. I honesty thought they were like angels. Alas, they were human too.

Whatmakesya think they was willin? An intimidating immoral man operating under deputy authority and daddy's covering would be hard for a brainwashed sister to resist...to bad her name wasn't Mrs. Bobbit or there could have been a different ending!

[TLFisher]

Originally Posted by HERn

An intimidating immoral man operating under deputy authority and daddy's covering would be hard for a brainwashed sister to resist...

Apart from what's generally known, suppose there's a minor Philip accosted?
Two key words from HERn posts, deputy authority and daddy's covering.
One phrase I have heard for several decades, "cover the brothers". Who would ever imagine the evil being covered?
Benson Phillips and Ray Graver certainly knew when approached by John Ingalls and Ken Unger, but they wanted no part of the conversation. As they considered it a local matter.

[HERn]

Originally Posted by Terry

One phrase I have heard for several decades, "cover the brothers". Who would ever imagine the evil being covered?.

My thinking is that the only being who wants to hide evil is satan, I could be wrong. I'll cover for my brother if he tells me he got angry and cussed his wife...but if he molests my daughter or sister I don't care if he's the son of Jupiter I'm gunna tell others to watch him and don't let him alone with your young sisters...especially if he holds some Nicolaitan rank like "ministry office"..my bad, there isn't any hierarchy in the so-called lords recovery...what's wrong with me...I must not be in my spirit.

[TLFisher]

Originally Posted by HERn

there isn't any hierarchy in the so-called lords recovery...

You must be seeing The Emperor's New Clothes?

Seriously there is hierarchy. responsible brothers kowtow to elders and elders kowtow to Blended co-workers. It's called being one with the brothers or one accord. It's not necessary for the small potatoes to have one accord, but for brothers in responsibility, it's essential. Important item to understand, if you have a problem with one elder, you're going to have a problem with nearly all.

[TLFisher]

Another way to understand the two trees is:

Anything the leadership says equals tree of life
Anything that contradicts what the leadership says equals tree of knowledge

The leadership wants to keep all matters with a positive view. The leadership don't want to discuss matters that may be "inwardly disturbing" and have an effect on a brother's or sister's conscience.

[Ohio]

Originally Posted by awareness

And to this day it completely and utterly blows my mind that sisters, married or otherwise, could ever do such a thing. I honesty thought they were like angels. Alas, they were human too.

Not all were "willing" bro. You assume too much.

I remember the audio tapes sent out from Anaheim circa August 1988 (referenced in STTIL) to all the LC's, that so "appalled" the GLA brothers, who were then instructed by TC to write "shame on you" letters to John Ingalls and the other Anaheim elders.

Nobody ever questioned what prompted the firestorm in the first place. None of us dared to nor even bothered to investigate the facts of the case. What made the saints in Anaheim so mad at the Lee family? One of the sisters whom PL hit on was a little "disturbed" by his groping and her slightly more "disturbed" husband then went after Phillip "The Office" Lee with a gun. The church was furious that nothing was done! And they had every right to be!

To this day, neither Witness Lee nor his beloved son Phillip ever thanked John Ingalls for intercepting and stopping the irate husband of that unsuspecting victim at LSM, whose only "crime" was that she volunteered her time for what she thought was a Christian ministry.

[TLFisher]

Originally Posted by Ohio

I remember the audio tapes sent out from Anaheim circa August 1988 (referenced in STTIL) to all the LC's, that so "appalled" the GLA brothers, who were then instructed by TC to write "shame on you" letters to John Ingalls and the other Anaheim elders.

Remember back in the tape cassette time, tapes were easily accessible from the tape room. All one had to do was borrow the tape and make duplicates.

When there's a complete and total disregard for what's just in regard to Philip Lee, what did one expect but outrage? That's what appeared to transpire in Anaheim.
Outside of Philip Lin, the blendeds know act as if Philip Lee was ever part of the LC history.