David, Saul, and Deputy Authority

[aron]

Originally Posted by OBW

Where is there any evidence that God has anointed anyone from the time of Paul to this day to stand in such a high position that a righteous man would not dare to strike out against him? Surely not Nee or Lee. And I daresay, not anyone.

And note the natural corollary of presuming "to stand in such a high position" in the modern church - the advisement to "touch not mine anointed" (1 Chron. 16:22 etc) can be ignored by the modern apostle, or his deputies. I've seen many a Deputy God in the LC reach out from the dias or lectern or podium to touch the rank-and-file.

The idea of "such a high position" within the flock entails a two-tier, or even multi-tier church life. Those who are anointed (all of us) and those who have the untouchable extra something.

So like the classic dystopian novella, we realize that we're all equal, but some of us are more equal than others. We're all priests and kings, but some are more priestly and kingly than others. We're all anointed, but some of the anointed can be touched, and some cannot. It's a strange kind of wink-wink, nod-nod world where we preach one thing, but (wink-wink) eventually you'll get it.

[OBW]

Originally Posted by aron

And note the natural corollary of presuming "to stand in such a high position" in the modern church - the advisement to "touch not mine anointed" (1 Chron. 16:22 etc) can be ignored by the modern apostle, or his deputies. I've seen many a Deputy God in the LC reach out from the dias or lectern or podium to touch the rank-and-file.

The idea of "such a high position" within the flock entails a two-tier, or even multi-tier church life. Those who are anointed (all of us) and those who have the untouchable extra something.

So like the classic dystopian novella, we realize that we're all equal, but some of us are more equal than others. We're all priests and kings, but some are more priestly and kingly than others. We're all anointed, but some of the anointed can be touched, and some cannot. It's a strange kind of wink-wink, nod-nod world where we preach one thing, but (wink-wink) eventually you'll get it.

I understand that we are all priests and kings. And at the same time there are those who are given charge over flocks. And more is required of them.

But nowhere is there an edict to ignore their sins. Paul was adamant to the opposite. They are to be made examples of for the flock when they fail. This "cover your DA/MOTA" stuff is absolutely contrary to NT teaching.

I don't need to discuss what they actually did with it. The fact that they presumed something so outlandish from a claim of inference when the scripture directly says the opposite — well there is no reason to continue to debate the issue. They are simply wrong.

[awareness]

Originally Posted by OBW

I understand that we are all priests and kings. And at the same time there are those who are given charge over flocks. And more is required of them.

But nowhere is there an edict to ignore their sins. Paul was adamant to the opposite. They are to be made examples of for the flock when they fail. This "cover your DA/MOTA" stuff is absolutely contrary to NT teaching.

I don't need to discuss what they actually did with it. The fact that they presumed something so outlandish from a claim of inference when the scripture directly says the opposite — well there is no reason to continue to debate the issue. They are simply wrong.

But if you take away deputy authority the whole local church system falls down.

[TLFisher]

Originally Posted by awareness

But if you take away deputy authority the whole local church system falls down.

Very true Awareness. Without the deputy authority teaching, pride and verbal abuses (aka perfecting) won't be tolerated.
So-called responsible brothers wouldn't be able to run roughshod over brothers and sisters. Instead of abuses going unchecked, one might find himself being crosschecked.
Without deputy authority, there's no control to ensure churches lineup with headquarters.