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Old 02-04-2016, 08:53 PM   #1
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The question I have is whether or not the Lord has blessed these local churches who don't embrace LSM leadership with his presence, annointing, and blessing or not. I don't care who takes the lead, as long as the Lord Spirit pours his abundant blessing upon us. I waited for that to happen in my locality and region where LSM leadership is embraced so I could happily also embrace it, and was only frustrated. What was stunning to me is I found more of the Spirit's outpouring and abundant blessing outside TLR , I think because the Word of God is held as the ultimate authority versus a given preacher's interpretation.
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Old 02-05-2016, 05:59 PM   #2
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The question I have is whether or not the Lord has blessed these local churches who don't embrace LSM leadership with his presence, annointing, and blessing or not. I don't care who takes the lead, as long as the Lord Spirit pours his abundant blessing upon us.
Same here. For years as an adult meeting with various localities, I've been observant. Observed how brother's spoke. Putting down non-LSM Christians had become an easy way to "get over" with the LC assembly and receive a resounding amen. What behavior is that? Instead of humility, I observed pride. Instead of grace towards brothers who left the recovery, I observed malice.

When I was meeting with the local churches, I didn't care who was an elder or a coworker, but over time I did want to see a right heart towards our fellow brothers and sisters in Christ.
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Old 02-05-2016, 09:42 PM   #3
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Same here. For years as an adult meeting with various localities, I've been observant. Observed how brother's spoke. Putting down non-LSM Christians had become an easy way to "get over" with the LC assembly and receive a resounding amen. What behavior is that? Instead of humility, I observed pride. Instead of grace towards brothers who left the recovery, I observed malice.

When I was meeting with the local churches, I didn't care who was an elder or a coworker, but over time I did want to see a right heart towards our fellow brothers and sisters in Christ.
I agree, we should follow those who set a good example of Christ-likeness in word and deed.

"for the kingdom of God is not eating and drinking, but righteousness and peace and joy in the Holy Spirit" (Romans 14:17 New American Standard Bible)
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Old 02-18-2016, 12:44 PM   #4
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Yet another double standard:
We receive all redeemed blood-washed brothers and sisters and in the next sentence receiving is only possible through LSM publications.

Anything less than LSM, there is no openness to meet. That's their so-called oneness in Christ.
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Old 02-19-2016, 09:34 AM   #5
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We receive all redeemed blood-washed brothers and sisters and in the next sentence receiving is only possible through LSM publications.
How about, "We receive in fellowship all redeemed, blood-washed brothers and sisters, provided they do exactly as we say, no questions asked." With that minor stipulation, LSM churches are wide open.
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Old 02-19-2016, 10:42 AM   #6
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How about, "We receive in fellowship all redeemed, blood-washed brothers and sisters, provided they do exactly as we say, no questions asked." With that minor stipulation, LSM churches are wide open.
I have seen very few examples in the LC of receiving anyone from the outside, unless it's like you say, the person is willing to assimilate to the LC environment, no questions asked.

In recent years, they have had people like Hank Hanegraaff speak in LC meetings. I have seen at least two videos on youtube of him speaking. One was to a Christians on Campus group and one was in a church meeting.

LCers might point to this as evidence that they receive others outside the LC. Hank is probably the one person that I could think of that they 'receive'. And we all know why they like him so much. If they receive all redeemed, blood-washed brothers and sisters then maybe they could also invite Norm Geisler to speak in a meeting. Oh wait, I don't think Ron would like that suggestion.
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Old 03-23-2016, 08:52 PM   #7
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Daystar is also a double standard how it was approached. Soliciting for investments as if you invest, it will bring God's blessing to the churches....Later on when Daystar was failing and Witness Lee was approached his attitude towards the brothers and sisters who invested had lost their virginity.
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Old 02-05-2016, 07:38 PM   #8
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The question I have is whether or not the Lord has blessed these local churches who don't embrace LSM leadership with his presence, annointing, and blessing or not. I don't care who takes the lead, as long as the Lord Spirit pours his abundant blessing upon us. I waited for that to happen in my locality and region where LSM leadership is embraced so I could happily also embrace it, and was only frustrated. What was stunning to me is I found more of the Spirit's outpouring and abundant blessing outside TLR , I think because the Word of God is held as the ultimate authority versus a given preacher's interpretation.
I really like the simplicity of the Lord Jesus. He said that wherever 2 or 3 meet together in His name He is there among them. Nothing about the ground, names, or denominations. So simple. Nothing about one trumpet, one ministry, one publishing house, one man. Just wherever 2 or 3 meet together.
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Old 02-05-2016, 09:07 PM   #9
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I really like the simplicity of the Lord Jesus. He said that wherever 2 or 3 meet together in His name He is there among them. Nothing about the ground, names, or denominations. So simple. Nothing about one trumpet, one ministry, one publishing house, one man. Just wherever 2 or 3 meet together.
Yes, simply meeting in His name. The Word and our experience confirm it.
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