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[awareness]

Originally Posted by Ohio

Considering the history of the Clintonistas, bigotry is a noble virtue.

Remember all those Arkancides?

Arkancide is the unfortunate habit of potential witnesses to the Clintons’ dirty dealings in Arkansas suddenly deciding to shoot themselves twice in the back of the head. Police and Coroners in Arkansas, notably Fahmy Malak who answered to Governor Bill Clinton, automatically described these shootings as “suicides.” After Bill Clinton became President the phenomenon spilled over to Washington D.C. when Hillary Clinton’s ex-lover Vincent Foster was “Arkancided.”

Push down on Hillary get Trump. Push down on Trump and get Hillary. Pick your evil.

[Ohio]

Originally Posted by awareness

Push down on Hillary get Trump. Push down on Trump and get Hillary. Pick your evil.

Why is a little nationalism such a bad thing?

We don't know what a Trump presidency will look like, but it seems it will be nasty talk and good decisions for the country. Unless we all have amnesia, we know what a Clinton presidency will look like. While she is promising us all the world, jobs are lost, illegal immigrants get a free lunch, 1st and 2nd amendment rights will vanish, scandals abound, political opponents die mysteriously, etc.

[zeek]

Originally Posted by Ohio

Why is a little nationalism such a bad thing?

We don't know what a Trump presidency will look like, but it seems it will be nasty talk and good decisions for the country. Unless we all have amnesia, we know what a Clinton presidency will look like. While she is promising us all the world, jobs are lost, illegal immigrants get a free lunch, 1st and 2nd amendment rights will vanish, scandals abound, political opponents die mysteriously, etc.

Trump's appeals to ultra-nationalism, his scapegoating of ethnic groups, his fear mongering to angry working-class voters and his presentation of himself as the strong man who can fix every problem [the man card] through the force of his will all have echoes of fascist political leaders of the past like Hitler, Mussolini, and Franco.

[Ohio]

Originally Posted by zeek

Trump's appeals to ultra-nationalism, his scapegoating of ethnic groups, his fear mongering to angry working-class voters and his presentation of himself as the strong man [the man card] who can fix every problem through the force of his will all have echoes of fascist political leaders of the past like Hitler, Mussolini, and Franco.

Hitler? But, of course, you are not fear-mongering here because you made the first accusation. Liberalism has blinded you friend.

[Cal]

Originally Posted by zeek

Trump's appeals to ultra-nationalism, his scapegoating of ethnic groups, his fear mongering to angry working-class voters and his presentation of himself as the strong man who can fix every problem [the man card] through the force of his will all have echoes of fascist political leaders of the past like Hitler, Mussolini, and Franco.

What's so interesting here is you've described what he does with just enough negative spin to make it look horrible.

Is Trump scapegoating ethnic groups? Or is he simply pointing out that illegal aliens are a problem and that wholesale immigration of Muslims has caused problems in every non-Muslim nation it's occurred in? Why is that about "race" all of a sudden. Maybe it's just about having laws and controlling culture shock.

Is he fear-mongering to the working class? Gee, I thought that's what Democrats do every election when they complain about rich privilege. Wasn't complaining about "Wall Street" fear-mongering?--when the policies of the Congress and the Fed were as much if not more a cause of the financial crisis? "Blame Wall Street, and pay no attention to that man (Alan Greenspan/Ben Bernanke) behind the curtain."

Strong man? Would you rather have him act weak and timid? What's wrong with being strong? Now all of a sudden acting strong is evil? Hello!

Then the clincher--compare him to sociopathic despots. Every campaigner "echoes" fascist leaders in some way because they are all campaigning.

Really, zeek? You are smarter than that. As a thinker you should know you are employing selective reasoning here.

[zeek]

There's more support for Donald Trump among white supremacists than among leaders of the Republican Party.

[Ohio]

Originally Posted by zeek

There's more support for Donald Trump among white supremacists than among leaders of the Republican Party.

There's more support for Hillary Clinton among felons on death row than among leaders of the Democratic Party.

[Cal]

Originally Posted by Ohio

There's more support for Hillary Clinton among felons on death row than among leaders of the Democratic Party.

Pretty sure the NAMBLA crowd is foursquare behind Hillary.

We could do this all day, zeek. What does it prove?


Don't forget them "tabacca lawyers," zeek. James Carville used to get a lot of distance yelling about them.

[zeek]

Originally Posted by Ohio

There's more support for Hillary Clinton among felons on death row than among leaders of the Democratic Party.

This is a typical superficial tit-for-tat response such as I have come to expect from you. There is no parallel. Clinton is the preferred candidate of the Democratic Party leaders whereas most Republican leaders are having major reservations about endorsing Trump.

[Evangelical]

Originally Posted by zeek

Trump's appeals to ultra-nationalism, his scapegoating of ethnic groups, his fear mongering to angry working-class voters and his presentation of himself as the strong man who can fix every problem [the man card] through the force of his will all have echoes of fascist political leaders of the past like Hitler, Mussolini, and Franco.

Trump is like these men in the sense of his appeal to nationalism and building his campaign on problems rather than solutions. Most people focus on the terrible things these men did in hindsight, however at the time the masses followed them because they made big promises and blamed other people for their woes.

The tactic is the same, blame someone else (muslims, Hillary, China, the media, Obama etc), and get people to follow you by making big promises. Like Germany, people followed these dictators because they gave them renewed hope for a better country, a better life, better economy.

Trump is unlike these men in the sense that he is perhaps the first Commander in Chief who needs his hand held while walking down the stairs in a bath robe. He has no military experience nor committed any great acts of violence himself. Also, unlike Hitler he does not come from the "grass roots" movement he came to support. He cannot empathize with the people that voted for him or know what they are suffering unless he somehow relates it to his failed business or construction ventures.