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Originally Posted by Ohio

News Flash!

Huffington Post is not a valid site for Christians to get their news.

So what site is valid for Christians to get their news from?

[OBW]

Find fault in the article, not the writer or the publisher. Otherwise it is a classic misdirect. A true ad hominem.

From a truly Christian perspective, virtually every source of news is tainted in some way. Fox News, CNN, ABC, CBS, NBC, BBC, Huffington Post, the Drudge Report . . . .

Even Christianity Today. It has a slant that is opposed to whole segments of Christianity and is therefore carrying a bias that is not always favorable toward the truth, but toward the bias.

So what is a person to do?

Think. Hear the report. Observe. Think.

Don't just accept. And don't think the source that is biased in your direction is always right. I know mine isn't. I almost can't stomach them anymore.

[awareness]

Originally Posted by OBW

Find fault in the article, not the writer or the publisher. Otherwise it is a classic misdirect. A true ad hominem.

From a truly Christian perspective, virtually every source of news is tainted in some way. Fox News, CNN, ABC, CBS, NBC, BBC, Huffington Post, the Drudge Report . . . .

Even Christianity Today. It has a slant that is opposed to whole segments of Christianity and is therefore carrying a bias that is not always favorable toward the truth, but toward the bias.

So what is a person to do?

Think. Hear the report. Observe. Think.

Don't just accept. And don't think the source that is biased in your direction is always right. I know mine isn't. I almost can't stomach them anymore.

Note the thumbs up top left corner.

But to humor bro Ohio, I'm supposing that he won't object to "NewsMax" being a Christian source for news ... where Wayne Grudem's article is posted. Newsmax is a noted conservative news source -- therefore I suppose more Christian (so commonly believed) :
http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/Tru.../30/id/741334/

[Ohio]

Originally Posted by OBW

So what is a person to do?

Think. Hear the report. Observe. Think. Don't just accept.

And don't think the source that is biased in your direction is always right. I know mine isn't. I almost can't stomach them anymore.

There you go man!

Keep as cool as you can!

Face piles and piles of trials with smiles.

It riles them to believe that you perceive the web they weave.

And keep on thinking free.

[OBW]

Originally Posted by Ohio

There you go man!

Keep as cool as you can!

Face piles and piles of trials with smiles.

It riles them to believe that you perceive the web they weave.

And keep on thinking free.

At least we try.

And Harold . . . stop picking on Ohio. He's trying to figure out how to make do with the *stuff* on the market shelves. Just like I am. I read an article like the one zeek linked and I find fault in both the article and the position of the one he was griping about (Gruden or someone like that). We are all faced with pretty bad choices.

One writer I occasionally read suggested that Trump (although I suspect it was more like the combination of Trump/Clinton if the truth be told) could result in the destruction of both the Republican and Democratic parties. The internal strife over Trump v Cruz v Rubio v Kaisich (sp?) etc. and Hillary v Bernie created significant divides among those of allegedly similar goals. We might be able to imagine it results in a better system, but the truth is that it might result in a 4-party system in which there is never a winner via standard means. It would take a constitutional amendment to get a president. Of course the congress could simply declare a president because that is evidently the last option if the electoral college completely fails.

Let's see. A multi-party system. Missouri Synod Republicans, the Tea Party, the Hard-Shell Democrats, and the Southern Democrats (couldn't resist filtering in a few denominational puns).

[awareness]

Originally Posted by OBW

At least we try.

And Harold . . . stop picking on Ohio. He's trying to figure out how to make do with the *stuff* on the market shelves. Just like I am. I read an article like the one zeek linked and I find fault in both the article and the position of the one he was griping about (Gruden or someone like that). We are all faced with pretty bad choices.

Me too. Needless to say, since I stated this whole election cycle is garlic room insanity.

And hey, bro Ohio quoted the Moodies. I can't fault that.

Note Thumbs up again.

[Ohio]

Originally Posted by OBW

Let's see. A multi-party system. Missouri Synod Republicans, the Tea Party, the Hard-Shell Democrats, and the Southern Democrats (couldn't resist filtering in a few denominational puns).

Hey Harold ... Tell him about the Yellow Dog and Blue Dog Democrats.

[awareness]

Originally Posted by Ohio

Hey Harold ... Tell him about the Yellow Dog and Blue Dog Democrats.

You just did. My sis is a proud Yellow Dog. Presses the Demmie button every time. I give her such a hard time. I like to point out their flaws.

Reminds me of my buddy in Alaska. The only true conservative on the planet. All others are RINOs, to him. He says there are two Republican party's in Alaska.

But hey, we've got Gary Johnson of the Libertarian party, and Jill Stein of the Green Party. That's four to select from. And how about the Republican alternative to Trump : Evan McMullin recently announced he’s running for president, to offer voters a choice other than Donald Trump or Hillary Clinton.

And we could always write in Willie Nelson, if he lives long enough. He can't be any worse than who we got so far.

[OBW]

Harold,

As long as the current two parties survive, the others will be gnats flying around the piles the two big ones are. It will only be with the effective destruction of the units that are the Republican and Democratic parties that there would be any meaningful movement away from them. If they collapse, there will be alternatives provided. And as long as there are at least two significantly different groups formed out of the one, then the crawl to the bottom will begin. We will look more like the British system, or maybe even the German system where there is always some kind of coalition between two of the parties before there is any real change. And sometimes the notion of "strange bedfellows" is very appropriate. It might not always be the most conservative and the second most conservative that gets together (or the other end) it might be the two in the middle, or one of the extremes and the one in the middle but toward the other end.

I kinda wish that were an option.

And 8 years ago I would have been very happy to vote for the McCain/Lieberman ticket. I know that neither was conservative enough for the right or liberal enough for the left. But it often turns out that it is in the broad no-man's land in the middle that real solutions are found.

Alas, it was not to be. And putting Palin on the ticket did nothing to bring the far right into the fold for McCain.

So now it seems they have what they want. And it isn't going to be much better. The GOP has been in the habit of shooting itself in the foot way too often.

[Ohio]

Originally Posted by awareness

You just did. My sis is a proud Yellow Dog. Presses the Demmie button every time. I give her such a hard time. I like to point out their flaws.

Reminds me of my buddy in Alaska. The only true conservative on the planet. All others are RINOs, to him. He says there are two Republican party's in Alaska.

But hey, we've got Gary Johnson of the Libertarian party, and Jill Stein of the Green Party. That's four to select from. And how about the Republican alternative to Trump : Evan McMullin recently announced he’s running for president, to offer voters a choice other than Donald Trump or Hillary Clinton.

And we could always write in Willie Nelson, if he lives long enough. He can't be any worse than who we got so far.

You think politics in America is crazy, try watching the Olympic news.

[Ohio]

Originally Posted by awareness

So what site is valid for Christians to get their news from?

I've been studying the Clintons' for a quarter century. I've been reading about Trump for much less time.

But in my mind, there is no way we can compare the Clinton sleaze factor with Trump's abrasive tendencies. Trump is a product of the abrasive in-your-face business world, while the Clintons' are puppets of the political underworld.

Just this year we have another handful of "mysterious deaths" surrounding Hillary. Over the years, this number approaches a hundred. And that's on top of all the other scandals we have endured over the years.

Everyone has their own agenda folks. Too many young girls I know support Hillary for just one reason: She guarantees the continued right to abortions. What does that tell you?