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Old 10-03-2016, 03:50 PM   #11
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Default Re: Witness Lee and AW Tozer

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Originally Posted by ZNPaaneah View Post
If you were to remove a few sentences of the most offensive statements he has made, "The Son is the Father" . . . .
I know that this is more about deification, but since it is partly about Lee's propensity for saying the outrageous, then later softening it, or as you say "walk it back," do you think that he really meant to say that the Son is the Father?

I know that he essentially talked both sides of this issue. The whole Christ is the Spirit and Christ is the Father thing was a really big deal for him, especially that Christ is the Spirit. He insisted in dealing with the "persons" of the Godhead as simply being One. Not in the sense that the Trinity is a mystery of Three and One, One and Three, but in the sense that the Trinity is almost a game of semantics.

Of course he would always point at his claim that the Son rose out of the water, the Father spoke (not the Son) and the Spirit descended as a dove. But other than referring to this and insisting that this was proof that he was not modalist, did he hardly ever really talk of the Father separately from the Son and/or the Spirit? Jesus said to pray "our Father who is in heaven" but Lee said just pray to whoever you like. I guess it doesn't matter which if they are really just the same.

In a sense they are, but in a sense they are not and I think that Lee did not really admit to that side.

If he said "the Son is the Father" did he really mean this rather than just want a controversy?

I think he meant it. There is way too little saying otherwise. His love for Trinity stew rather than the distinction of Father, Son, and Spirit is too significant relative to his love for the Spirit (other than when sevenfold intensified), or the Father, or the Son as being in any way separate.
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