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[zeek]

Originally Posted by Ohio

So ... You think Pence is to blame for your cancer?

How about taking a little responsibility for your life?

I don't have cancer, Fourdead. You're funny.

I read that your role model said "Despite the hysteria from the political class and the media, smoking doesn't kill."

Is that right?

[Ohio]

Originally Posted by zeek

I don't have cancer, Fourdead. You're funny.

I read that your role model said "Despite the hysteria from the political class and the media, smoking doesn't kill."

Is that right?

Just because you are bitter and vindictive over the election, and happen to hate all Christians including Pence, remember this is still a free country.

Have you seen the rioting in all the major cities?

How about that white guy in Chicago gang beaten for supposedly voting Trump?

Guys like you fuel hatred, racism, bigotry, violence.

[ZNPaaneah]

Originally Posted by Ohio

Just because you are bitter and vindictive over the election, and happen to hate all Christians including Pence, remember this is still a free country.

Have you seen the rioting in all the major cities?

How about that white guy in Chicago gang beaten for supposedly voting Trump?

Guys like you fuel hatred, racism, bigotry, violence.

I definitely feel an anti democracy vibe when I see people beaten for wearing a T-shirt that says Trump. Not that I would ever do that (wear a T-shirt with Trump on it).

I get it that people are stunned that in a country of 350 million this is the person we selected to be president. But remember, that guy who voted did not have 350 million choices, he had 2 legitimate choices and 2 lame choices.

What I don't get is when someone looks at those 4 choices how they could be shocked, surprised, or offended that this person made the choice they did.

Sometimes we assume we understand our country, but if you were shocked by this outcome it just goes to show you really don't know your fellow Americans as much as you think. Maybe you learned more about the two political parties, maybe you learned more about the media's "unbiased" presentation of the facts, or maybe you learned about the struggles that 60 million of your countrymen are going through and how those are quite different from the 60 million who were shocked. Personally I am disgusted that after this incredibly long process which completely dominated the airwaves we still have 60 million people who are so clueless about how the other 60 million feel.

Once again I am impressed by the collective wisdom of 60 million. What did they say?

1. You reap what you sow and you will be held accountable for your actions.

2. The winner of this election gets so few votes it is clear they don't have a mandate. (60 million represents 1 out of 6 Americans.)

3. The winner of this election does not win the popular vote, once again reenforcing that they don't have a mandate.

4. The winner of this election has just been warned, if we will do this to someone who has 25 years of experience and lots of political influence and friends, then you can bet we'll lock up your rear end as well.

5. If you thought that you could buy an election, guess again.

6. The republicans now have absolutely no excuse, so they will be held fully accountable in 2 years.

7. "You break it, you pay for it" applies to Trump.

Besides, since we are supposed to pray for those taking the lead that we would lead a peaceable life, then you can't beat this election for motivating the Christians to pray.

[Ohio]

Originally Posted by ZNPaaneah

Besides, since we are supposed to pray for those taking the lead that we would lead a peaceable life, then you can't beat this election for motivating the Christians to pray.

The last three Presidents began their terms in the aftermath of a recession.

Many considered that another one was on the horizon, regardless which party won the election.

[zeek]

Originally Posted by Ohio

Just because you are bitter and vindictive over the election, and happen to hate all Christians including Pence, remember this is still a free country.

That's what I like about you Fourdead, your vivid imagination.

Have you seen the rioting in all the major cities?

I read that the demonstrations on college campuses and along downtown streets were mostly peaceful following previous outbreaks of window-smashing and fire-setting. What are you reading?

How about that white guy in Chicago gang beaten for supposedly voting Trump?

Yeah and I have read that there have been over 200 anti-Black, anti-woman, anti-LGBT and anti-Muslim incidents since election day. https://www.splcenter.org/hatewatch/...n-election-day

Guys like you fuel hatred, racism, bigotry, violence.

Yeah it's the non-violent, gun-free people like me who are provoking the violent gun-packing Neo-Nazi Trump people to violence. So, I'm to blame because you're a racist, bigoted, hater? I didn't realize I had that kind of power.

[ZNPaaneah]

Originally Posted by zeek

Yeah it's the non-violent, gun-free people like me who are provoking the violent gun-packing Neo-Nazi Trump people to violence. So, I'm to blame because you're a racist, bigoted, hater? I didn't realize I had that kind of power.

It is estimated that one in three Americans own a gun. So unless you are going to label 120 million Americans in the "basket of deplorables" you can understand why a great many Americans would find linking "gun packing" to "bigoted, hater".

Now by "Neo-Nazi" I assume you mean fascist. Fascism, like communism, socialism, and capitalism is one of many valid isms. Just as the fire department is a socialist institution, the police department is a fascist institution. I am pretty sure that we all are pro fire department and pro police department. So again, using a label like that to evoke "Hitler and gas chambers" when in reality you are referring to "law and order" republicans is another example of provoking a divisive response.

Finally, are you calling everyone who voted for Trump a "trump person"? That seems awfully unfair. You yourself basically counseled me that you need to pick between one of the two candidates with a chance to win. We know for a fact that many of those who voted for Trump, perhaps even a solid majority of those who voted for Trump would not characterize themselves as "Trump people".

So those three terms come across as willfully provocative and designed to insult. Of course your claim "violent" gun packing neo nazi Trump people either greatly limits your discourse to the very, very few vocal Trump supporters convicted of aggravated assault during the campaign, or else is slanderous.

[ZNPaaneah]

I for one find the protests outside of Trump Tower fascinating and exciting. As long as this stays non violent I will enjoy watching to see what this is all about.

Surely we all can agree, regardless of political affiliation, that both news and politics have become a lot more entertaining.

I do have 2 questions for those who have expressed so much disapproval over the result of this election.

1. Do you think that you would do a better job as President than Donald Trump?

If you answer no, then my second question is

2. Why are you making such a big fuss?

If on the other hand you answer yes, then my second question is

2. Then why don't you get involved in politics?

"The world is not dangerous because of those who do harm, but because of those who look at it without doing anything." Albert Einstein.

21 Wherefore putting away all filthiness and overflowing of wickedness, receive with meekness the implanted word, which is able to save your souls. 22 But be ye doers of the word, and not hearers only, deluding your own selves. 23 For if any one is a hearer of the word and not a doer, he is like unto a man beholding his natural face in a mirror: 24 for he beholdeth himself, and goeth away, and straightway forgetteth what manner of man he was. 25 But he that looketh into the perfect law, the law of liberty, and so continueth, being not a hearer that forgetteth but a doer that worketh, this man shall be blessed in his doing.