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[Ohio]

Originally Posted by zeek

Can you give some specific examples of what you mean similarities and relying on feelings over facts and deceit?

And who were those masked rioters that wanted to silence contrary views in Berkeley? They seemed pretty well organized.

Do you suppose they were Berkeley students? They put that guy Yiannopoulos on the map.

Good questions. Arrest those rioters, and find out who is fronting them.

[zeek]

Originally Posted by Ohio

Good questions. Arrest those rioters, and find out who is fronting them.

I agree. In the videos they are breaking shop windows and setting off explosives and reports said that they assaulted the police. Yet I did not hear that any were arrested. What's up with that?

A rumor on the Left is that Breitbart sent them to get attention for Yiannopoulos, and to give Trump an excuse to deny funds to UC, Berkeley. A rumor on the Right is that George Soros sent them.

UC Berkeley allowed the guy to speak, so sanctioning the university is wrong. There were peaceful protesters there. No problem. So, the question remains, who were the thugs? We'll probably never know.

[ZNPaaneah]

Originally Posted by zeek

No problem. So, the question remains, who were the thugs? We'll probably never know.

Are you serious? The only way we will never know is if they were very well supported and trained.

The police department can now gather the smart phone data (what phone you have and all the information on that phone) from a crowd. They use a device that mimics a cell phone tower.

We also have CTV that blankets virtually the entire city. Regardless how these rioters got to the riot we can view the video and see them prior to them putting on masks. If they come by Public transport we have them. If they walked we have them. If they drove we have them. Once we have a license plate to a car we can immediately find that car, there are license plate readers strategically located all over the cities and highways. These will immediately alert police when a license plate passes a location.

That is enough information to get subpoenas, which will get into email accounts, texts, phone calls, and snail mail. How was it organized? We will be able to get that as well.

[Ohio]

Originally Posted by ZNPaaneah

Are you serious? The only way we will never know is if they were very well supported and trained.

The police department can now gather the smart phone data (what phone you have and all the information on that phone) from a crowd. They use a device that mimics a cell phone tower.

We also have CTV that blankets virtually the entire city. Regardless how these rioters got to the riot we can view the video and see them prior to them putting on masks. If they come by Public transport we have them. If they walked we have them. If they drove we have them. Once we have a license plate to a car we can immediately find that car, there are license plate readers strategically located all over the cities and highways. These will immediately alert police when a license plate passes a location.

That is enough information to get subpoenas, which will get into email accounts, texts, phone calls, and snail mail. How was it organized? We will be able to get that as well.

Aren't violent protesters immune from prosecution in sanctuary cities?

Sounds crazy, buts that's where we're headed.

Anybody else think CalExit is possible?

[ZNPaaneah]

Originally Posted by Ohio

Aren't violent protesters immune from prosecution in sanctuary cities?

Sounds crazy, buts that's where we're headed.

Anybody else think CalExit is possible?

No, if you commit a crime in a city you are not immune from prosecution, unless of course you have diplomatic immunity. That is a different story. The country would pay the price one way or another for the damage done, the diplomat would be sent home, and presumably once home would be disciplined.

As for CalExit, we have a serious problem with energy. There is an established economy that is based on fossil fuel. Any of a number of reasonable remedies to encourage renewable energy like solar and wind, while at the same time addressing the pollution of carbon emitters will hurt the bottom line of those currently in power. We are in the midst of an energy revolution and like all revolutions it means those at the top are now headed to the bottom. They resist that move. It is much easier for those without an investment in the current economy to see the clear and logical solution.

The fossil fuel industry was under the assumption that they had until 2050, even quite recently they thought they had until 2030, but the Titanic is already starting to list in the water and it is only 2017.

[Ohio]

Originally Posted by ZNPaaneah

No, if you commit a crime in a city you are not immune from prosecution, unless of course you have diplomatic immunity. That is a different story.

That's basically what a sanctuary city is -- diplomatic immunity for alien criminals.

[ZNPaaneah]

Originally Posted by Ohio

That's basically what a sanctuary city is -- diplomatic immunity for alien criminals.

I think Teddy Roosevelt is a very good example concerning this. When he became a Police commissioner in NYC he enforced the law about no alcohol on Sunday. This was a law that no one enforced, instead bars would pay cops to look the other way. It was very unpopular enforcing this law, but his point was if you don't enforce unpopular laws it promotes corruption. The way to deal with a bad law is to change it. They changed the law and he cleaned up corruption.

[awareness]

Originally Posted by ZNPaaneah

Are you serious? The only way we will never know is if they were very well supported and trained.

The police department can now gather the smart phone data (what phone you have and all the information on that phone) from a crowd. They use a device that mimics a cell phone tower.

We also have CTV that blankets virtually the entire city. Regardless how these rioters got to the riot we can view the video and see them prior to them putting on masks. If they come by Public transport we have them. If they walked we have them. If they drove we have them. Once we have a license plate to a car we can immediately find that car, there are license plate readers strategically located all over the cities and highways. These will immediately alert police when a license plate passes a location.

That is enough information to get subpoenas, which will get into email accounts, texts, phone calls, and snail mail. How was it organized? We will be able to get that as well.

Maybe Soros is paying the police to look the other way. And they're not using Stingray, or checking CTV. Or maybe the police are Breitfart supporters.

[ZNPaaneah]

Originally Posted by awareness

Maybe Soros is paying the police to look the other way. And they're not using Stingray, or checking CTV. Or maybe the police are Breitfart supporters.

My point is that if these "ninja protesters" are not found it is proof that they are not your typical college protester, but mercenaries with specific training on forensic countermeasures. In other words paid protesters with para military background.

[awareness]

Originally Posted by ZNPaaneah

My point is that if these "ninja protesters" are not found it is proof that they are not your typical college protester, but mercenaries with specific training on forensic countermeasures. In other words paid protesters with para military background.

Yes but who was backing them?

I find it interesting that the FBI is investigating the UC Berkeley "riot" but haven't found any fingerprints.

Common sense would figure that it was extreme leftists protesting Milo's speaking.

But we don't live in a common sense world.

It's also interesting that Milo is on Breitbart speaking against the " hysterical conspiracy theory in which Breitbart and I hired domestic terrorists to beat up my own fans and the residents of Berkeley and smash up Bank of America ATMs, Starbucks and trashcans." And is saying the protesters are proof that Trump should pull federal funding from UC Berkeley.
http://www.breitbart.com/milo/2017/0...m-uc-berkeley/

And Breitbart is all stirred up about it and are resentful that : "UC Berkeley’s Professor of Public Policy and former Secretary of Labor, Robert Reich, questioning whether the anti-MILO rioters at Berkeley last week were paid by Breitbart News."

Now we've got to find out who the military type thugs were. But look for crazies to come forward and claim credit.

[ZNPaaneah]

Originally Posted by awareness

Yes but who was backing them?

I find it interesting that the FBI is investigating the UC Berkeley "riot" but haven't found any fingerprints.

Common sense would figure that it was extreme leftists protesting Milo's speaking.

But we don't live in a common sense world.

It's also interesting that Milo is on Breitbart speaking against the " hysterical conspiracy theory in which Breitbart and I hired domestic terrorists to beat up my own fans and the residents of Berkeley and smash up Bank of America ATMs, Starbucks and trashcans." And is saying the protesters are proof that Trump should pull federal funding from UC Berkeley.
http://www.breitbart.com/milo/2017/0...m-uc-berkeley/

And Breitbart is all stirred up about it and are resentful that : "UC Berkeley’s Professor of Public Policy and former Secretary of Labor, Robert Reich, questioning whether the anti-MILO rioters at Berkeley last week were paid by Breitbart News."

Now we've got to find out who the military type thugs were. But look for crazies to come forward and claim credit.

And that is the weakness of mercenaries. They could be very well trained (i.e. US military, Israeli military, Russian military) but money leaves a trail that is very hard to hide. Once again, the only way the FBI doesn't find out is if they don't want to find out.