Ground of Locality and Generality

[tasteslikegold]

Originally Posted by countmeworthy

TLG,

You're on the right track. A person can be very GIFTED in teaching [B] but they can lose the anointing and the Presence of God., ...

CMW,

Not to get too far off the subject, but just prior to this post you wrote that we are "called to be Bereans." Without disputing your understanding of whether we are all called to be Bereans or not, I am wondering where, given this claim, it can be found in Scripture that "the anointing and Presence of God" can be lost.

The Bereans tested What Paul and Silas taught in the synagogue by, "examining the Scriptures daily to see whether these things were so." What I understand of "the anointing" is that it is generally believed by certain Pentecostal groups and especially the Word-Faith movement in America, to be an ethereal substance given by God to carry out certain commissions, healings, baptisms, and spiritual experiences. "The anointing" is sometimes referred to as "dripping" or "pouring out" of the person/preacher/pastor to whom it has been imparted.

With regard to "the Presence of God." If it is as I understand it, the presence of God is His, "literal presence of Person in every aspect and degree, freely given without precondition," how is it that such can be removed? The Lord Jesus promised that He would be, "with [us] until the end of the age," and He also promised that, through His presence, the Father would also be with us." So how is it that God's presence can be removed?

As one who is called to be a Berean I am interested in the Scriptural foundation for both of these expressions.

Thanks