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[Ohio]

Originally Posted by ZNPaaneah

Remember, this was the least popular president ever, received 3 million votes less than the loser.

Regarding popularity, can we ever believe the polls again?

Regarding votes, that's like the Super Bowl loser declaring victory because their team amassed more yards -- a totally different game with a totally different strategy.

How do we know whether 3 million solid Blue State Republicans just stayed home because their votes were meaningless? My brother lives in Sacramento, CA and feels voting there has basically become a waste of time for conservatives.

[ZNPaaneah]

Originally Posted by Ohio

Regarding popularity, can we ever believe the polls again?

Regarding votes, that's like the Super Bowl loser declaring victory because their team amassed more yards -- a totally different game with a totally different strategy.

How do we know whether 3 million solid Blue State Republicans just stayed home because their votes were meaningless? My brother lives in Sacramento, CA and feels voting there has basically become a waste of time for conservatives.

There is no doubt that one of the by products of the Electoral college is that you have "blue states" and "red states" and this reduces the number of voters. If you know how the state is going to vote then your vote is meaningless.

The candidates know this as well and only campaign in swing states. Candidates deemphasize 40 states.

Another very negative impact of this are policies that do not make sense, but one or two states like them, hence they are untouchable.

So then it is anti democratic and promotes policies that are not advantageous for the majority.

Ultimately this results in a feeling of disenfranchisement. People who aren't involved in the process and don't feel like this government represents them.

A step halfway towards full democracy is to only award 100% of electoral votes if the person wins by 10% or more. Less than that you divide the electoral votes proportionally.

[Ohio]

Originally Posted by ZNPaaneah

There is no doubt that one of the by products of the Electoral college is that you have "blue states" and "red states" and this reduces the number of voters. If you know how the state is going to vote then your vote is meaningless.

The candidates know this as well and only campaign in swing states. Candidates deemphasize 40 states.

Another very negative impact of this are policies that do not make sense, but one or two states like them, hence they are untouchable.

So then it is anti democratic and promotes policies that are not advantageous for the majority.

Ultimately this results in a feeling of disenfranchisement. People who aren't involved in the process and don't feel like this government represents them.

A step halfway towards full democracy is to only award 100% of electoral votes if the person wins by 10% or more. Less than that you divide the electoral votes proportionally.

The electoral college was a compromise. The original plan was to have our reps pick a Prez. You would have really hated that program. Remember our history -- we were initially a collection of STATES joined for a common purpose. The US Gov't was never supposed to be big, rather a protection of national defense. The Founders would be shocked at the outcome we now have.

The USA is not a democracy. It is a republic of laws. Have you forgotten? The smaller states will NEVER give up the electoral college system. Like it or not, it's here to stay.

Another crazy part of the election process is the power given to Iowa. It all but guarantees that we'll be burning corn in our engines. Totally stupid idea! There is nothing "renewable" about corn ethanol. Take away the petrochemical fertilizers and Monsanto's GMO corn, and nothing else could grow in Iowa.