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[Evangelical]

Originally Posted by Ohio

We bombed their country protecting the democracy in South Korea from their invasion.

And you expect me to read and believe an article at WaPo?

You mean .."Carpet bombed and napalmed the civilian population of their country... That does not give you the right to take the high moral ground. And America really has no business being on China's doorstep in the pacific.
Imagine how better you would be if all that military money was spent on infrastructure, healthcare etc. You got that big nuclear fleet off the coast of NK costing so many million per day just to satisfy Trump's ego.

[Ohio]

Originally Posted by Evangelical

You mean .."Carpet bombed and napalmed the civilian population of their country... That does not give you the right to take the high moral ground.

And what did your country do to protect innocent South Korean civilians from Mao and the Communists?

[Evangelical]

Originally Posted by Ohio

And what did your country do to protect innocent South Korean civilians from Mao and the Communists?

ahh you win. I can't say we did more than you did in carpet bombing and napalming the civilians. Anyhow Trump is doing the opposite of what he said he would do and not get so involved in wars.

[ZNPaaneah]

Originally Posted by Evangelical

ahh you win. I can't say we did more than you did in carpet bombing and napalming the civilians. Anyhow Trump is doing the opposite of what he said he would do and not get so involved in wars.

Perhaps you are right, the best way for Trump to get people to stop obsessing about his ties with Russia would be to start a nuclear war with N. Korea and China.

[ZNPaaneah]

"While I greatly appreciate you informing me, on three separate occasions, that I am not under investigation, I nevertheless concur with the judgment of the Department of Justice that you are not able to effectively lead the bureau." Trump

I love this quote, for those of you who thought Trump fired Comey because he was investigating Trump's connections to Russia this should clear that up

Also for those who think it is unethical to fire the person heading up an investigation of your campaign's possible collusion with Russia, once again that should clear this up

Nope, it is very clear from Trump's note that Comey was fired because he was not nice to Hillary Clinton.

On a more serious side this confession by Trump of ethics violations should kick off his impeachment hearings.

Has Pence commented yet?

I suppose Bill Clinton will comment on the irony of this quote. This stuff is really entertaining.

[ZNPaaneah]

Originally Posted by ZNPaaneah

"While I greatly appreciate you informing me, on three separate occasions, that I am not under investigation, I nevertheless concur with the judgment of the Department of Justice that you are not able to effectively lead the bureau." Trump

I love this quote, for those of you who thought Trump fired Comey because he was investigating Trump's connections to Russia this should clear that up

Also for those who think it is unethical to fire the person heading up an investigation of your campaign's possible collusion with Russia, once again that should clear this up

Nope, it is very clear from Trump's note that Comey was fired because he was not nice to Hillary Clinton.

On a more serious side this confession by Trump of ethics violations should kick off his impeachment hearings.

Has Pence commented yet?

I suppose Bill Clinton will comment on the irony of this quote. This stuff is really entertaining.

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Sean Spicer Had a Meltdown After Trump Fired Comey, Hiding in Bushes and Demanding Darkness

[awareness]

Originally Posted by ZNPaaneah

Politics
Sean Spicer Had a Meltdown After Trump Fired Comey, Hiding in Bushes and Demanding Darkness

And now after Rosenstein almost quit over getting the blame Trump changes his story, that, he was gonna fire Comey without the AG and deputy AG recommendations, because, Comey was showboating and grandstanding. Boy if that's not a projection I don't know what is.

And what about Sessions recusing himself and still interfering with the Russian ties investigation. It all smacks of guilt, again.

I'd ask why Trump doesn't know about Nixon, but he's so stupid that he thinks he just invented "prime the pump." Bahahahaha

[ZNPaaneah]

Originally Posted by Evangelical

You mean .."Carpet bombed and napalmed the civilian population of their country... That does not give you the right to take the high moral ground. And America really has no business being on China's doorstep in the pacific.
Imagine how better you would be if all that military money was spent on infrastructure, healthcare etc. You got that big nuclear fleet off the coast of NK costing so many million per day just to satisfy Trump's ego.

We don't have the right to be on China's doorstep? You mean Taiwan, Japan and S. Korea? I bet they love being called "China's doorstep" and I bet they really love being told by you they don't have the right to be allies with the US.

[Evangelical]

Originally Posted by ZNPaaneah

We don't have the right to be on China's doorstep? You mean Taiwan, Japan and S. Korea? I bet they love being called "China's doorstep" and I bet they really love being told by you they don't have the right to be allies with the US.

I'm talking about the 400 military bases that the US has been building up and mobilizing around them:

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/233119...erpower-rival/

Surely you don't expect everyone to believe that provocative behavior is only something other countries do.

America wasn't invited to play a role in Syria by their democratically elected government, and still isn't I recall. Forget about checks and balances on the President, where are the checks and balances on America?

Your idea of checks and balances on a nuclear powered President is not realistic. I don't think they hire people who are hesitant about pressing the nuke button. The person who gets the order from trump to press the big red button, they are going to do it either because they are a trump supporter and think trump is always right, or because they are afraid they will lose their job if they don't.

[ZNPaaneah]

Originally Posted by Evangelical

I'm talking about the 400 military bases that the US has been building up and mobilizing around them:

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/233119...erpower-rival/

Surely you don't expect everyone to believe that provocative behavior is only something other countries do.

America wasn't invited to play a role in Syria by their democratically elected government, and still isn't I recall. Forget about checks and balances on the President, where are the checks and balances on America?

Your idea of checks and balances on a nuclear powered President is not realistic. I don't think they hire people who are hesitant about pressing the nuke button. The person who gets the order from trump to press the big red button, they are going to do it either because they are a trump supporter and think trump is always right, or because they are afraid they will lose their job if they don't.

I lived in Taiwan for many years and it was very clear to me they very much wanted the alliance with the US. From my understanding the same is true of Japan and S. Korea.

The only time the US has used a nuclear weapon it was justified. Japan attacked us, we were defending ourselves and more American lives and Japanese lives would have been lost had we used conventional weapons than were lost from the bombs. Also, I blame the Japanese Emperor for the 2nd bomb.

About 80,000 were killed in the bomb that fell on Hiroshima.

Had we gone with operation downfall --

A study performed by physicist William Shockley for the staff of Secretary of War Henry Stimson estimated that the invasion of Japan would cost 1.7-4 million American casualties, including 400,000-800,000 fatalities, and five to ten million Japanese deaths.

[Ohio]

Originally Posted by Evangelical

America wasn't invited to play a role in Syria by their democratically elected government, and still isn't I recall. Forget about checks and balances on the President, where are the checks and balances on America?

The Christians and Kurds, who both have been slaughtered by both the Syrian gov't and ISIS, have long cried out for help and basic humanitarian assistance.

Since the rest of the world, including the UN, do next to nothing for indigent peoples suffering brutalities at the hands of their own gov'ts, THANK GOD the USA has stepped in to help these peoples. During the last century, nearly one quarter billion people have died at the hands of their own gov'ts. What has your country done for these ones? Nothing? I thought so.

[Evangelical]

Originally Posted by Ohio

The Christians and Kurds, who both have been slaughtered by both the Syrian gov't and ISIS, have long cried out for help and basic humanitarian assistance.

Since the rest of the world, including the UN, do next to nothing for indigent peoples suffering brutalities at the hands of their own gov'ts, THANK GOD the USA has stepped in to help these peoples. During the last century, nearly one quarter billion people have died at the hands of their own gov'ts. What has your country done for these ones? Nothing? I thought so.

The US got involved in Syria because of ISIS and the "war on terror". Nothing to do with alleviating the suffering of Christians or Kurds. The US has never been able to do so much about the Kurds because of its ally Turkey. The general consensus on intervention in foreign countries is that intervention makes things worse. It takes away the capacity of the people to solve the problems for themselves. It almost always fails, and deepens and prolongs the problems. I am not talking about supporting a country against clear aggression from a Hitler or a Mao, but the attempt to control the political process within any country as per Libya, Iraq, Syria by military means.