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[Evangelical]

Originally Posted by awareness

There have been seven investigations of Benghazi, led mostly by Republicans in the Congress ... all ending in bupkis ...

I hope we spend as much money into investigating these Russian ties. Interference by any nation into our elections should never be allowed, and should be pursued by both parties ... even you shouldn't want it bro Ohio ... unless you don't care because your guy won.

Ahem.

"the U.S. intervened in 81 foreign elections between 1946 and 2000, while the Soviet Union or Russia intervened in 36"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foreig...l_intervention

[zeek]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...=.79aaefd735ad

http://www.cnn.com/2017/05/10/politi...t-trump-comey/

Comey's firing was born of trump's tantrum. On top of threatening to out his collusion with the Rooskies, Comey had hurt President Snowflake's feelings.

[ZNPaaneah]

Originally Posted by zeek

https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...=.79aaefd735ad

http://www.cnn.com/2017/05/10/politi...t-trump-comey/

Comey's firing was born of trump's tantrum. On top of threatening to out his collusion with the Rooskies, Comey had hurt President Snowflake's feelings.

First, I see the term "snowflake" as a personal insult. Yes, it is true that Trump does not post here (as far as we know) but even so I think you are setting a dangerous precedent.

Second, I highly doubt it was a tantrum. I think he had been sweating for the last five days what to do, ever since he heard the "good news" that Comey's investigation was beginning to get traction. I think he jumped at the news of Comey's "mistake" as a "viable" excuse to fire him, and not because of the investigation, because, as he said he had been told on three separate times that he was not a target of that investigation.

For example, I was in the lab with my students this last week and two of my students violated very strict rules about lab protocol. As a result both classes had to leave the lab room as it had become unsafe.

I wrote up the incidents and as a result they will both fail lab. There was no "tantrum" instead I was very happy. I knew both students were not ready to move onto Chemistry and now I had the documented event that completely justifies that decision.

[Ohio]

Originally Posted by ZNPaaneah

Second, I highly doubt it was a tantrum. I think he had been sweating for the last five days what to do, ever since he heard the "good news" that Comey's investigation was beginning to get traction.

Rosenstein was overwhelmingly confirmed by the Senate on April 25. Give him a couple weeks to confer with past Directors, past AG's, and current top FBI staff, and he was quickly able to recommend with overwhelming support that Comey had to go.

Other than that, any time frame during the past 6 months or the next 6 months would be deemed suspicious and inappropriate.

Democrats have been calling for Comey's head since last summer. Give them what they want, and now they don't want it any more. Like a petulant child.

And here folks we have "Fake Tears Chucky" --

[ZNPaaneah]

Originally Posted by Ohio

Rosenstein was overwhelmingly confirmed by the Senate on April 25. Give him a couple weeks to confer with past Directors, past AG's, and current top FBI staff, and he was quickly able to recommend with overwhelming support that Comey had to go.

Other than that, any time frame during the past 6 months or the next 6 months would be deemed suspicious and inappropriate.

Democrats have been calling for Comey's head since last summer. Give them what they want, and now they don't want it any more. Like a petulant child.

And here folks we have "Fake Tears Chucky" --

Regardless of how you spin it, no one can deny that it is unethical for Trump to fire Comey in the middle of investigating Trump's campaign. Even Trump understood that which is why he claimed he wasn't being investigated.

But that claim comes with two more issues:

1. It would be unethical for Comey to have these three alleged conversations with Trump, just as much as Bill Clinton meeting with the AG when she was investigating Hillary was unethical.

2. No one can deny that Comey was investigating Trump's campaign. Claiming that Trump was not being investigated was disingenuous. Since the investigation was not complete how could you possibly know whether or not Trump was part of it?

To now see these republicans paraded out defending this because six months ago Democrats wanted Comey fired is the height of hypocrisy. Think about it, the President was a democrat. Why didn't he fire Comey? Because it would be unethical to do so while Hillary Clinton was being investigated.

[awareness]

Originally Posted by Ohio

Rosenstein was overwhelmingly confirmed by the Senate on April 25. Give him a couple weeks to confer with past Directors, past AG's, and current top FBI staff, and he was quickly able to recommend with overwhelming support that Comey had to go.

Except NOT. Deputy Attorney General Rosenstein threatened to resign after his recommendation was cited as the reason that Trump fired Comey.

Long story short, Trump threw a tantrum over the Russian ties investigation and pushed Rosenstein to write the memo, so it didn't look like it came from Trump.

These are clear indicators of guilt ... that smell like Nixon all over again.

[ZNPaaneah]

Originally Posted by awareness

Except NOT. Deputy Attorney General Rosenstein threatened to resign after his recommendation was cited as the reason that Trump fired Comey.

Are you serious?! Remember the good old days of Constantine the great when you could get your lackeys to take the fall?

You realize what this means. Sessions and Trump realized the ethical dilemma in firing him and had to give credit to Rosenstein. Which was a lie.

Here is how they are now describing the events. Trump calls a mtg, says he wants to fire Comey, asks AG and Asst AG to put their thoughts into writing. Then pretends it was the Asst AGs comments that were the final piece which prompted him to action.

Looks more and more like Nixon firing Cox.

Well, you need a good impeachment every 30 years or so.

[Ohio]

Originally Posted by ZNPaaneah

Are you serious?!

Well, you need a good impeachment every 30 years or so.

The liberals began their impeachment proceedings on November 8.

[ZNPaaneah]

Originally Posted by ZNPaaneah

Are you serious?! Remember the good old days of Constantine the great when you could get your lackeys to take the fall?

You realize what this means. Sessions and Trump realized the ethical dilemma in firing him and had to give credit to Rosenstein. Which was a lie.

Here is how they are now describing the events. Trump calls a mtg, says he wants to fire Comey, asks AG and Asst AG to put their thoughts into writing. Then pretends it was the Asst AGs comments that were the final piece which prompted him to action.

Looks more and more like Nixon firing Cox.

Well, you need a good impeachment every 30 years or so.

And it gets even worse. Under oath high ranking FBI officials say that Trump's claim that Comey had lost the confidence of the FBI is false.

Trump's claim that the Asst AG prompted the firing of Comey is false.

Soon we'll find out if Trump's claim that Comey told him he wasn't the focus of an investigation is false.

If the Asst AG did not push for comedy to be fired then it is clearly and undeniably a conflict of interest on Trump's part.

That would make his explanation for firing Comey to include 3 lies and unethical behavior.

[ZNPaaneah]

Originally Posted by Evangelical

Ahem.

"the U.S. intervened in 81 foreign elections between 1946 and 2000, while the Soviet Union or Russia intervened in 36"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foreig...l_intervention

Are those countries happy about it? If not, do something, it is your country and your election.

I am not angry at Russia for intervening in our election, I am angry at Clinton whose use of a non secure server made it easier to hack, and I am angry at anyone who colluded with the Russians and want them caught, tried, and humiliated.