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[Ohio]

Originally Posted by ZNPaaneah

After a very thorough and complete investigation Trump has determined and stated clearly that he did not make nor does he have recordings of his conversations with Comey.

"With all of the recently reported electronic surveillance, intercepts, unmasking and illegal leaking of information, I have no idea......whether there are "tapes" or recordings of my conversations with James Comey, but I did not make, and do not have, any such recordings."

I think what the president of the United States is saying is that he doesn't know if someone else is making recordings of what is going on the oval office, but as for him, he doesn't have any tapes.

Did I understand that right?

Did Nixon take his recorder home with him?

[ZNPaaneah]

Originally Posted by Ohio

Did Nixon take his recorder home with him?

No, you are misreading this. He doesn't say that no one made a recording, he even implies that someone might have made a recording. What he is saying is that he didn't. I guess someone else was responsible for taking care of the audio equipment.

Also he isn't saying there isn't a recording. Instead, he is saying that after 48 days he doesn't have the recording.

[awareness]

Originally Posted by ZNPaaneah

No, you are misreading this. He doesn't say that no one made a recording, he even implies that someone might have made a recording. What he is saying is that he didn't. I guess someone else was responsible for taking care of the audio equipment.

Also he isn't saying there isn't a recording. Instead, he is saying that after 48 days he doesn't have the recording.

It's likely the recordings prove Comey's memo's true and accurate ... and that's why they don't exist now.

[ZNPaaneah]

Originally Posted by awareness

It's likely the recordings prove Comey's memo's true and accurate ... and that's why they don't exist now.

He didn't say they don't exist. It is a non denial denial. He doesn't deny they exist, he simply says he didn't make them -- it all comes down to what the definition of "make" is.

Also it took him 41 days to say "he doesn't have any tapes of Comey conversations". He never says no one has them.

It took Trump's lawyers 41 days to come up with this.

[Ohio]

Originally Posted by ZNPaaneah

Also it took him 41 days to say "he doesn't have any tapes of Comey conversations". He never says no one has them.

It took Trump's lawyers 41 days to come up with this.

But you are OK that it took many months to learn that Trump is not under investigation, until we learn that he may be under investigation?

[ZNPaaneah]

Originally Posted by Ohio

But you are OK that it took many months to learn that Trump is not under investigation, until we learn that he may be under investigation?

I am not fine with the politics and bipartisanship. I think Trump's administration has more leaks than any I have ever seen and I learned that one reason for that is that Trump watches the news and his underlings realize this is one way for them to bring something before him when they can't get a meeting.

I am happy that since Mueller has been appointed most of this stuff has been completely shut off.

I am glad that someone is doing a thorough investigation that we can trust and doing it in a professional way without the leaks.

I also am not fine that our President is tweeting at all hours of the day. I realized that he used this effectively to win the election. But now that he is president it makes him out to be a fool.

For example "Comey needs to hope there are no tapes" and then 41 days later "I don't have any tapes, someone else might, I don't know, but I didn't make any tapes".

I used to think that the oval office was secure from being bugged by anyone that was not authorized by the President. Even if that is not true I would feel better if you pretended it was. But the president of the US doesn't have any idea if the oval office is being bugged by someone else?

He had 41 days, couldn't they bring in someone to do one of those electronic sweeps to see if there are any bugs? Either Trump is a complete idiot or he thinks I am. Either way I am angry.

[zeek]

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...pgtype=article

There is simply no precedent for an American president to spend so much time telling untruths. Every president has shaded the truth or told occasional whoppers. No other president — of either party — has behaved as Trump is behaving. He is trying to create an atmosphere in which reality is irrelevant.