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Old 07-09-2017, 02:31 AM   #1
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Obviously you haven't read any posts about the the so-called ground of the church. John's Revelation describes calling a church by the name of the town, but overwhelmingly Paul's epistles describe no such practice.

There are no denominations, perhaps, but overwhelmingly there are no LSMs, BFAs, FTTs, DCPs, ETCs in the Bible either.

Like OBW said, either you can't read, or you play stupid.
This is an example of taking the bible literally but being completely wrong. If all we had were people like you then we would not know anything. Thankfully we have Greek New Testament experts like Professor Wallace and I quote:

7The early church had but one church in each city or town. Hence, Paul's instruction to Titus is to appoint multiple elders in every church.

https://bible.org/article/who-should...urality-elders
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Old 07-09-2017, 05:53 AM   #2
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If all we had were people like you then we would not know anything.
But I tell you that every careless word that people speak, they shall give an accounting for it in the day of judgment. Matt 12:36
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Old 07-09-2017, 01:47 PM   #3
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But I tell you that every careless word that people speak, they shall give an accounting for it in the day of judgment. Matt 12:36
Don't make me quote all the careless words you have written.
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Old 07-09-2017, 06:09 AM   #4
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This is an example of taking the bible literally but being completely wrong. If all we had were people like you then we would not know anything. Thankfully we have Greek New Testament experts like Professor Wallace and I quote:

7The early church had but one church in each city or town. Hence, Paul's instruction to Titus is to appoint multiple elders in every church.

https://bible.org/article/who-should...urality-elders
Are you saying that Paul's word in Titus proves there was one church in each city? Isn't it problematic that Paul's word in 1Cor proves that there were sects in Corinth. Yet he wrote his letter to "the church in Corinth" even though some were of Peter, Some were of Apollos, some were of Christ, etc. So doesn't Paul's word in his first letter to the Corinthians prove that the term "the church in Corinth" includes every Christian gathering and sect in the city of Corinth?

2 Unto the church of God which is at Corinth, to them that are sanctified in Christ Jesus, called to be saints, with all that in every place call upon the name of Jesus Christ our Lord, both their's and our's:

Doesn't Witness Lee teach that what we see is typical of the church, therefore could also be applied to the 7 churches in Revelation?

The point here is that in a very real sense the Corinthians illustrate the usual, or typical, Christian life, church life, and Body life. Actually, the usual Christian life is just like that of the Corinthians. (Witness Lee, Life Study of 1Corinthians, chapter 1, section 1)
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Old 07-09-2017, 01:52 PM   #5
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Paul included all believers in the city but doubt he referred to the sects because he was against that.

I just quoted Wallace. He said that. I'm doing what UntoHim said to do in #42...quote some bible scholars.

So a major New Testament and Greek expert believes each town had only one church:

https://bible.org/article/who-should...urality-elders

7The early church had but one church in each city or town. Hence, Paul's instruction to Titus is to appoint multiple elders in every church.

14 Recall that "elder" = "bishop" and that each town had but one church.
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Paul included all believers in the city but doubt he referred to the sects because he was against that.
You doubt it? He states plainly that the letter is written to those who are referring to themselves as "of Peter" or "of Apollos" or "of Christ" etc. This is the plain, black and white word. Yet at the same time he addresses the letter to "the church in Corinth".

3:1 And I, brethren, could not speak unto you as unto spiritual, but as unto carnal, even as unto babes in Christ.

2 I have fed you with milk, and not with meat: for hitherto ye were not able to bear it, neither yet now are ye able.

3 For ye are yet carnal: for whereas there is among you envying, and strife, and divisions, are ye not carnal, and walk as men?

4 For while one saith, I am of Paul; and another, I am of Apollos; are ye not carnal?


and the same book

1:1Paul called to be an apostle of Jesus Christ through the will of God, and Sosthenes our brother,

2 Unto the church of God which is at Corinth, to them that are sanctified in Christ Jesus, called to be saints, with all that in every place call upon the name of Jesus Christ our Lord, both their's and our's:
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Old 07-09-2017, 03:07 PM   #7
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He's writing to all believers in the city as they are in the one church in the city. This would include those in the sects.

He is not writing to those of the sects in a positive way "greetings to the sect of Peter, greetings to the sect of Apollos". He is against all that. He never recognizes those "denominations".

Anyhow, do you claim to know more than Wallace about this matter?
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Old 07-09-2017, 04:25 PM   #8
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My claim is that there is only one mediator between God and man, Jesus Christ. All the treasures of knowledge are hidden in Jesus Christ.

Relying on Wallace or Witness Lee is no different than those who "were of Peter" or "Apollos" or "Paul".

Paul is writing to everyone in Corinth that are sanctified in Christ Jesus, all that are called to be saints, with all in every place that call upon the name of Jesus Christ.

These are the very same ones who in chapter 3 were carnal, babes in Christ. Among them was envy and strife and divisions. They walked as men. They said I am of Paul, I am of Apollos, I am of Witness Lee, and I am of Wallace.

In chapter 1 Paul makes it clear he considers all of them to be "the church in Corinth" but in Chapter 3 he also makes it clear that they divided themselves into sects based on allegiance to some doctrine, or man.
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My claim is that there is only one mediator between God and man, Jesus Christ. All the treasures of knowledge are hidden in Jesus Christ.

Relying on Wallace or Witness Lee is no different than those who "were of Peter" or "Apollos" or "Paul".

Paul is writing to everyone in Corinth that are sanctified in Christ Jesus, all that are called to be saints, with all in every place that call upon the name of Jesus Christ.

These are the very same ones who in chapter 3 were carnal, babes in Christ. Among them was envy and strife and divisions. They walked as men. They said I am of Paul, I am of Apollos, I am of Witness Lee, and I am of Wallace.

In chapter 1 Paul makes it clear he considers all of them to be "the church in Corinth" but in Chapter 3 he also makes it clear that they divided themselves into sects based on allegiance to some doctrine, or man.
I don't see much Berean-like attitude coming from you. No one is talking about giving allegiance to Wallace or following him. I am quoting him as a reliable source of scholarly knowledge, as a teacher that God gifted to the Body of Christ. When you become an expert in NT Greek like him, let me know, I may quote you. Until then, your view is no better than any other amateur theologian interpreting the bible according to SOLO scriptura.
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