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[awareness]

I read that since Jr. was outed there's lots of fervor in the WH, with Trump running around angry at everyone, for the flood of leaks. Seems Trump is angry that leaker's are revealing evidence that Trump is trying his damnedest to keep under wraps ; while he runs around claiming "nothing to see here, move on." Surely Robert Mueller is taking notice that, Trump's intentional cover up of such evidence is a strong indication of his guilt.

[ZNPaaneah]

Originally Posted by awareness

I read that since Jr. was outed there's lots of fervor in the WH, with Trump running around angry at everyone, for the flood of leaks. Seems Trump is angry that leaker's are revealing evidence that Trump is trying his damnedest to keep under wraps ; while he runs around claiming "nothing to see here, move on." Surely Robert Mueller is taking notice that, Trump's intentional cover up of such evidence is a strong indication of his guilt.

I think we can be confident that if there is something to find Mueller will find it. Till then I am glad to know this investigation is based on something real.

Obviously Trump has to lawyer up and it must be very disconcerting to everyone in the WH, but that isn't evidence of guilt, it's evidence of being investigated.

[Ohio]

Originally Posted by ZNPaaneah

I think we can be confident that if there is something to find Mueller will find it. Till then I am glad to know this investigation is based on something real.

Obviously Trump has to lawyer up and it must be very disconcerting to everyone in the WH, but that isn't evidence of guilt, it's evidence of being investigated.

Gingrich said it best, "the left passes by Bank Robbers to catch a conservative jay-walking."

If Mueller was an honest investigator, then he would not stack his office with ex-Clinton lawyers.

I guess I expected more objectivity from you.

[ZNPaaneah]

Originally Posted by Ohio

Gingrich said it best, "the left passes by Bank Robbers to catch a conservative jay-walking."

If Mueller was an honest investigator, then he would not stack his office with ex-Clinton lawyers.

I guess I expected more objectivity from you.

Jr has agreed that the emails are authentic, that he had the meeting, and that the purpose of the meeting was to get information from the Russians who hacked the democrats email.

None of this convicts him of a crime but it does justify the need for an investigation.

I have no problem with Trump and his associates lawyering up and am happy to give them the presumption of innocence. But at this stage their is sufficient undisputed evidence for me to justify the investigation.

BTW since when did Gingrich become so emasculated that he can't get an investigation by the senate of the Democrats or Lynch? This is not an either or, we can have both. Let's make America great again and have both investigations!

[Ohio]

Originally Posted by ZNPaaneah

Jr has agreed that the emails are authentic, that he had the meeting, and that the purpose of the meeting was to get information from the Russians who hacked the democrats email.

None of this convicts him of a crime but it does justify the need for an investigation.

I have no problem with Trump and his associates lawyering up and am happy to give them the presumption of innocence. But at this stage their is sufficient undisputed evidence for me to justify the investigation.

BTW since when did Gingrich become so emasculated that he can't get an investigation by the senate of the Democrats or Lynch? This is not an either or, we can have both. Let's make America great again and have both investigations!

Gingrich is a private citizen, author, news contributor, consultant. How is he supposed to arrange such investigations?

And what proof do you have that this lawyer Natalia Veselnitskaya, who sent the emails, was sent by the Russian Government. She appears to have endless connections to Democratic officials, for example California Rep. Ron Dellums was a hired lobbyist for her, and she worked for years on a case with Glenn Simpson, the founder of Fusion GPS, a firm that produced a widely discredited dossier against Trump. She also worked with Christopher Cooper, the founder and CEO of Potomac Square Group, which has had Democratic clients including California Government Jerry Brown, Democratic presidential nominee Howard Dean, and Joe Trippi, according to the Daily Caller. And it was Obama’s Attorney General Loretta Lynch that granted her an extension in late 2015 to stay in the U.S. after her visa was due to expire, under “extraordinary circumstances.” Four days after her meeting with Trump Jr. on June 9, 2016, she was in Washington, D.C. for a movie screening of an anti-Magnitsky Act film at the Newseum with at least five congressional staffers and State Department officials.

She is dirty, Donald Jr. is not.

[ZNPaaneah]

Originally Posted by Ohio

Gingrich is a private citizen, author, news contributor, consultant. How is he supposed to arrange such investigations?

And what proof do you have that this lawyer Natalia Veselnitskaya, who sent the emails, was sent by the Russian Government. She appears to have endless connections to Democratic officials, for example California Rep. Ron Dellums was a hired lobbyist for her, and she worked for years on a case with Glenn Simpson, the founder of Fusion GPS, a firm that produced a widely discredited dossier against Trump. She also worked with Christopher Cooper, the founder and CEO of Potomac Square Group, which has had Democratic clients including California Government Jerry Brown, Democratic presidential nominee Howard Dean, and Joe Trippi, according to the Daily Caller. And it was Obama’s Attorney General Loretta Lynch that granted her an extension in late 2015 to stay in the U.S. after her visa was due to expire, under “extraordinary circumstances.” Four days after her meeting with Trump Jr. on June 9, 2016, she was in Washington, D.C. for a movie screening of an anti-Magnitsky Act film at the Newseum with at least five congressional staffers and State Department officials.

She is dirty, Donald Jr. is not.

On Jun 3, 2016, at 10:36 AM, Rob Goldstone wrote:
Good morning
Emin just called and asked me to contact you with something very interesting.
The Crown prosecutor of Russia met with his father Aras this morning and in their meeting offered to provide the Trump campaign with some official documents and information that would incriminate Hillary and her dealings with Russia and would be very useful to your father.
This is obviously very high level and sensitive information but is part of Russia and its government's support for Mr. Trump - helped along by Aras and Emin.
What do you think is the best way to handle this information and would you be able to speak to Emin about it directly?
I can also send this info to your father via Rhona, but it is ultra sensitive so wanted to send to you first.
Best
Rob Goldstone

On Jun 3, 2016, at 10:53, Donald Trump Jr. wrote:
Thanks Rob I appreciate that. I am on the road at the moment but perhaps I just speak to Emin first. Seems we have some time and if it's what you say I love it especially later in the summer. Could we do a call first thing next week when I am back?
Best,
Don

This is the email exchange that preceded their meeting. This is enough to warrant an investigation.

As for Gingrich he was rebuked for an ethics violation, that's why he resigned from Speaker of the House. He therefore should know that the House and Senate can authorize and conduct investigations of Lynch.

[awareness]

Originally Posted by Ohio

And what proof do you have that this lawyer Natalia Veselnitskaya, who sent the emails, was sent by the Russian Government.

Proof? Haha. As if the evidence is all in. But add this to this Something Burger :

Revealed: Ex-Soviet SPY was at the meeting Don Jr held with Russian lawyer - and intelligence services believe mystery man STILL has links to Kremlin

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...t-meeting.html

[Ohio]

Originally Posted by awareness

I read that since Jr. was outed there's lots of fervor in the WH, with Trump running around angry at everyone, for the flood of leaks. Seems Trump is angry that leaker's are revealing evidence that Trump is trying his damnedest to keep under wraps ; while he runs around claiming "nothing to see here, move on." Surely Robert Mueller is taking notice that, Trump's intentional cover up of such evidence is a strong indication of his guilt.

Want some hot sauce on your Nothing Burger?

Though you have left the LC, you still believe so many lies. Have you never learned to discern the truth?

[awareness]

Originally Posted by Ohio

Want some hot sauce on your Nothing Burger?

Though you have left the LC, you still believe so many lies. Have you never learned to discern the truth?

Is that what you've done, discerned the truth? Interesting. Why doesn't Mueller, and all the intelligence agencies, just talk to you? How did you come by such top security clearances? Or is it divinely given?

[Ohio]

Originally Posted by awareness

Is that what you've done, discerned the truth? Interesting. Why doesn't Mueller, and all the intelligence agencies, just talk to you? How did you come by such top security clearances? Or is it divinely given?

Mueller is running a deep state government hit job. Look at who he has hired.

[awareness]

Originally Posted by Ohio

Mueller is running a deep state government hit job. Look at who he has hired.

Is that divinely given truth? I don't know any other way such truth can be discerned.

[Ohio]

Originally Posted by awareness

Is that divinely given truth? I don't know any other way such truth can be discerned.

Yer a funny guy.

[awareness]

Originally Posted by Ohio

Yer a funny guy.

Thanks bro Ohio. I try to be. But really, we're all guilty of something like divine insight into the truth of what's going on ; both sides of the politics are guilty ; when none of us know that truth, nor can, except by some kind of divination.

For this reason I think politics is just another type of religion. You've got yours. I've got mine. And everyone else has theirs. And different political sects condemn the other political sects. Same, same, as religion ; very tribal (that still lingers on from our past primitive tribal days ; very primate like ; no divinity in it).