Women's Role

[Evangelical]

Originally Posted by countmeworthy

Brother Evangelical!
Women were an afterthought??? Really? We were not originally in God's plan for mankind??? until God saw that the animals alone were not enough for Adam??

So... the Bride of Christ was an afterthought? And God did not really know us and choose us women before the foundation of the world?

No one is arguing God created Adam first.

In eternity past of course women were part of God's plan.

However in time, in the creation account of Genesis, God created the man, God created the animals, and then God realized man needed a helper so He created woman. The classical Sunday school account usually mentions how lonely Adam was and how he couldn't find a suitable helper in the animals.
It all sounds very much like an afterthought from our perspective. Of course God being all-knowing , had a plan all along.

The one argument that destroys the feminist ideas is that Paul states that woman was not created for woman's sake but woman for man's sake:

“man was not created for woman’s sake, but woman for the man’s sake” (1 Cor. 11:9).

God created women to be companions for man, not to be man's leaders.

[OBW]

Originally Posted by Evangelical

. . . and then God realized man needed a helper so He created woman. . . .

Did you actually mean to write that? God got all the way through creation to the forming of Adam, then "realized man needed a helper so He created woman"? Are you out of your mind?

Your version is much less plausible than the Sunday School version. And much less in sync with the scripture. At least the Sunday School version acknowledges an all-knowing God who allowed Adam to see his lack rather than just push it on him. Your version makes God into a half-baked buffoon who has to quickly take action to cover up his mistake.

Maybe that is the reason your sect is always so busy interpreting from scripture what actually isn't there. You are convinced that the "God-breathed" version is missing something, so Nee and Lee (and now maybe you) have been needed to bolster the scripture into something more fitting the God of your making.

As someone once said, God made man in His image, and man has been returning the favor ever since.

[countmeworthy]

Originally Posted by Evangelical

In eternity past of course women were part of God's plan.

However in time, in the creation account of Genesis, God created the man, God created the animals, and then God realized man needed a helper so He created woman.

God realized?
I believe God knew all along in the garden. It was Adam who sensed something was missing. After all, When God created the animals, He created male and female so they could reproduce. He probably wondered why the male animals had female companions but not him.

He was a spirit with a living soul filled with emotions and a will. After the fall, the spirit of man went dormant and the first man Adam, became a living soul we read in 1 Cor 15:45. So when The Lord God said, “It is not good for the man to be alone; I will make him a helper suitable for him.” He saw that Adam realized the male animals had female counterparts. That's why I believe He said it is not good for the man to be alone.

It all sounds very much like an afterthought from our perspective. Of course God being all-knowing , had a plan all along.

But that's not how it came across in your comment. Glad you clarified.

The one argument that destroys the feminist ideas is that Paul states that woman was not created for woman's sake but woman for man's sake:

“man was not created for woman’s sake, but woman for the man’s sake” (1 Cor. 11:9).

Paul also said "I say to the unmarried and to widows that it is good for them if they remain even as I."

God created women to be companions for man, not to be man's leaders.

Well. That makes Adam a very poor 'leader' doesn't it?

[UntoHim]

OK guys. Let's not belabor these points anymore in this thread. Let's let QOTSA have her thread back.
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