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[zeek]

Originally Posted by Ohio

Or perhaps finally the dem/libs are being exposed for who they really are.

Weinstein, Clinton, Franken, today there are plty Charlie Rose, tomorrow John Conyer.

Just keep throwing those large-worded mud-balls at Trump to divert attention from the truth.

No doubt there are plenty of instances of sexual harassment by Dems and libs. That doesn't exonerate or give a pass to Trump or Moore. Why don't they apologize like Bush, Franken and now Rose have done? Isn't that the Christian thing to do?

[Ohio]

Originally Posted by zeek

No doubt there are plenty of instances of sexual harassment by Dems and libs. That doesn't exonerate or give a pass to Trump or Moore. Why don't they apologize like Bush, Franken and now Rose have done? Isn't that the Christian thing to do?

Personally, I don't think Moore has anything to apologize for. I think it's a smear job taking advantage of our present climate. He is not the first conservative to be victimized. Should Clarence Thomas apologize to Professor Hill?

As far as Trump apologizing as a Christian, good luck on both counts.

[zeek]

Originally Posted by Ohio

Personally, I don't think Moore has anything to apologize for. I think it's a smear job taking advantage of our present climate.

Waiting for the smoking gun?

He is not the first conservative to be victimized. Should Clarence Thomas apologize to Professor Hill?

Hell yeah.

As far as Trump apologizing as a Christian, good luck on both counts.

President Thug

[ZNPaaneah]

Originally Posted by Ohio

Personally, I don't think Moore has anything to apologize for. I think it's a smear job taking advantage of our present climate. He is not the first conservative to be victimized. Should Clarence Thomas apologize to Professor Hill?

As far as Trump apologizing as a Christian, good luck on both counts.

It seems they are asking him when he began to prey on teenagers. If he responds at all he will be condemned.

That said if he is innocent he has to sue them for defamation and damages. You have an alleged case of forgery and you have security guards and coworkers claiming his reputation as a predator was well known.

He can claim he is innocent because you the statute of limitations has expired, but unless he or the party sues for slander I will not believe him.

[ZNPaaneah]

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[Ohio]

Originally Posted by ZNPaaneah

It seems they are asking him when he began to prey on teenagers. If he responds at all he will be condemned.

That said if he is innocent he has to sue them for defamation and damages. You have an alleged case of forgery and you have security guards and coworkers claiming his reputation as a predator was well known.

He can claim he is innocent because you the statute of limitations has expired, but unless he or the party sues for slander I will not believe him.

Yup, Moore has threatened to sue WaPo.

The jury is out on the Roy Moore accusations, but one thing we know, he never fit the classic profile of a pedophile. His accusers are being called liars, and women are starting to stand by him. Like I said, WaPo made the mistake of running their hit piece too early, and now I'm sure they regret it.

What we are learning about Doug Jones, however, will drip drip drip until long after election day. So much for Jonesy the hypocrite protecting young defenseless girls: Accuser in UAB sex abuse case calls out Doug Jones for 'hypocrisy' for his position on Moore accusers

I just watched Janet Porter President of Faith2Action debunk the anti-Moore fake news on MSNBC.

I happened to read that somehow Breitbart News forced WaPo to come out with this story prematurely and ahead of schedule, thus giving Moore and his supporters way too much time to defend himself against the lies.

[awareness]

So Trump broke his silence on Moore and said "We don't need a liberal in there." So the pubbies are willing to take a pedophile scumbag rather than a liberal.

Sounds like something out of bro Ohio's playbook.

[Ohio]

Originally Posted by awareness

So Trump broke his silence on Moore and said "We don't need a liberal in there." So the pubbies are willing to take a pedophile scumbag rather than a liberal.

Sounds like something out of bro Ohio's playbook.

You are so quick to believe lies and pass judgment.

Doesn't seem like you care for the actual facts of the case.

And then you implicate me!

You may as well include all evangelical Christians too.

I remember how you have said that "Christians lie."

How about these accusers all lying for money?

[awareness]

Originally Posted by Ohio

You are so quick to believe lies and pass judgment.

Doesn't seem like you care for the actual facts of the case.

And then you implicate me!

You may as well include all evangelical Christians too.

I remember how you have said that "Christians lie."

How about these accusers all lying for money?

It runs much deeper than money in Alabama. Moore is not seen as doing anything wrong.

It's a problem of Christian fundamentalism. They operate from the courtship-purity movement, promoted by the Biblical Patriarchy and Quiverfull movements, widely influential in Christian homeschooling circles.

Girls who are 14 are seen as potential relationship material. Girls are raised to be “pure,” meek, dependent and submissive with the goal of becoming appropriate “help-meets” for much older men. Marriage to the under age girls, by older Christian men, is arranged by fundamentalists parents.

And bro Ohio, Moore is a Christian Reconstructionist. I thought they tried to recruit the church you and your wife were attending ... and you disagreed with them. Have you changed your mind?

[ZNPaaneah]

Originally Posted by awareness

So Trump broke his silence on Moore and said "We don't need a liberal in there." So the pubbies are willing to take a pedophile scumbag rather than a liberal.

Sounds like something out of bro Ohio's playbook.

I don't agree with labeling him as a "pedophile". Predator -- ok, creep -- ok, but I don't think it is fair to label a person a pedophile that hasn't been convicted of that crime.

Also, it is as though you are completely ignoring the political motivation that could have prompted this attack. Personally I believe there must be something to it for there to be so many witnesses. But when it comes to "pedophile" it is simply one 14 year old's testimony versus his. Also, I don't even know the specifics of the law whether or not her allegations would rise to the level of "pedophile".

The only thing that I feel has been confirmed by all people is that he dated teenagers that were 10 or 15 years younger than him.

[Ohio]

Originally Posted by ZNPaaneah

The only thing that I feel has been confirmed by all people is that he dated teenagers that were 10 or 15 years younger than him.

Teenagers who were 18 or 19 years old, right?

And they were probably pretty too!

Nice, outgoing personalities!

Perhaps came from established well-to-do families!

Makes sense. His wife was 14 years younger than him and pretty.

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Yup. Lock him up!

[Ohio]

Originally Posted by ZNPaaneah

But when it comes to "pedophile" it is simply one 14 year old's testimony versus his. Also, I don't even know the specifics of the law whether or not her allegations would rise to the level of "pedophile".

The accusations of that 14 year old girl are slowly being debunked by the facts.

Court Documents Raise Significant Questions About Leigh Corfman’s Accusations Against Roy Moore

The case against Roy Moore is that he dated pretty, young girls after serving in the military and finishing his law degree. Nothing wrong here. Eventually he found one and married her.

So WaPo had to find one instance of underage dating -- Corfman. And then they had to add salicious data to connect Moore with the like of Harvey Weinstein and these other predators. WaPo needed one good victim!

Can't find one? Then Corfman will have to do. And let's hope the election occurs before the real facts of the case come out.