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Old 12-11-2017, 09:59 AM   #1
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Why would the Israeli's want to negotiate? They have nothing to gain from negotiation. Trump and Kushner are clearly bias toward Israel so they are in no position to act as mediators. Netanyahu appears to be in no mood for compromising. Why would he be when Trump backs Israel unconditionally?
http://www.jpost.com/Arab-Israeli-Co...tinians-517720
Israel is surrounded by very rich countries, these countries control one of the most important natural resources on the planet. As a result they have a tremendous political clout with the developed nations like China, Russian and Europe. Likewise these arab nations have made one of the largest coalitions of muslim nations, I think it is now over 50 countries, in the UN. This is hardly the big, bad Israel vs the little downtrodden Palestinians.

However, this Arab alliance doesn't want peace, they want to be a continual thorn in the side of Israel. If they did want it the Palestinians would have had a peace settlement decades ago. Israel wants peace with its neighbors, Palestinians for the most part want to get on with their lives and have peace, but the Arab "allies" of the Palestinians, they are the ones who don't want this conflict to end.
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Trevor Noah: Trump Backs Roy Moore Because ‘Birds Of A Feather Molest Together’
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[QUOTE=awareness;67330]Trevor Noah: Trump Backs Roy Moore Because ‘Birds Of A Feather Molest Together’

How about quoting reputable news stories?

Or do you only dabble in Alt-News?
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Trevor Noah: Trump Backs Roy Moore Because ‘Birds Of A Feather Molest Together’
There is no one more blatantly anti trump than Trevor Noah.
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Old 12-12-2017, 08:37 AM   #5
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Israel is surrounded by very rich countries, these countries control one of the most important natural resources on the planet. As a result they have a tremendous political clout with the developed nations like China, Russian and Europe. Likewise these Arab nations have made one of the largest coalitions of Muslim nations, I think it is now over 50 countries, in the UN. This is hardly the big, bad Israel vs the little downtrodden Palestinians.

However, this Arab alliance doesn't want peace, they want to be a continual thorn in the side of Israel. If they did want it the Palestinians would have had a peace settlement decades ago. Israel wants peace with its neighbors, Palestinians for the most part want to get on with their lives and have peace, but the Arab "allies" of the Palestinians, they are the ones who don't want this conflict to end.
From what I read , the support of the Palestinians by the Arab nations is, in many cases only nominal. There are large, mistreated Palestinian refugee communities in all of Israel's neighbors but Egypt.

Jordan has a peace treaty with Israel and houses the largest concentration of Palestinians refugees. It's also the one of Israel's neighbors where Palestinians have full citizenship rights. Despite this, many refugees are shoved into crowded camps and generally poorly treated, which is why Palestinians are skeptical of their neighbors' claim to support the Palestinian cause.

Turkey, long on good terms with Israel, Turkey has become increasingly pro-Palestinian in recent years. Its Islamist Prime Minister, Recep Tayyip Erdogan, has positioned himself as a champion of the Palestinian cause for ideological, domestic, and geopolitical reasons. Israeli-Turkish conflict over an Israeli raid on a Turkish aid mission to Gaza severed diplomatic relations between the two countries for years. They normalized in 2016, but are still fragile.

Saudi Arabia donates hundreds of millions of dollars to the Palestinian Authority and is the driving force behind an Arab League peace plan floated as an alternative to traditional Israeli-Palestinian negotiations. Though Saudi Arabia has yet to recognize Israel, the two nations' mutual hostility toward Iran has led to an unprecedented working relationship between the Saudi and Israeli governments.

The Palestinians have little power themselves when compared to Israel and can hardly count on consistent effective support from the Arab nations.
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