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[Ohio]

Originally Posted by ZNPaaneah

God's judgements are righteous. The reference to them blaspheming God is "over the plagues". But the plagues were a judgement for something. It couldn't be the blaspheming, instead that is merely evidence that they refused to repent.

Not quite, it was a pattern: judgment-->blaspheming-->more judgment-->more blaspheming

But one thing is interesting. They stopped blaming Trump for the calamities. They realized global warming was a farce, and they recognized the God of heaven was behind the climate "change."

They no more were liberal agnostics and atheists. They had to make a choice about God. Unfortunately a bad one.

[ZNPaaneah]

Originally Posted by Ohio

Not quite, it was a pattern: judgment-->blaspheming-->more judgment-->more blaspheming

But one thing is interesting. They stopped blaming Trump for the calamities. They realized global warming was a farce, and they recognized the God of heaven was behind the climate "change."

They no more were liberal agnostics and atheists. They had to make a choice about God. Unfortunately a bad one.

I am not a liberal agnostic nor an atheist. You accused me of being part of a climate cult and now you accuse me of being an agnostic or atheist.

This pattern you cite cannot begin with God's judgement. It would have to begin with God's word followed by man's disobedience which then brought God's judgement. Blaspheming is evidence that they refuse to repent even though they were reaping what they sowed.

The judgement is on the Sun allowing it to scorch man (Ozone hole) with great heat (climate change). Why? What actions by man prompted this response by God?

Blasphemy refers to a lack of respect, reverence for God. It is the act of insulting or showing contempt for God. Trump's comment asking for more of that "good ole global warming" is blasphemy.

So we have God's word, Man's disobedience, followed by God's judgement on the Sun (Climate change as evidenced by Puerto Rico, Houston, and California) followed by Man's blasphemy (Trump's comment) which will be followed by more judgement.

So then why not fill in the first two -- what was God's word and what was Man's disobedience?

[Ohio]

Originally Posted by ZNPaaneah

I am not a liberal agnostic nor an atheist. You accused me of being part of a climate cult and now you accuse me of being an agnostic or atheist.

That's not true.

I thought we were talking about those who blasphemed God.

Originally Posted by ZNPaaneah

Blasphemy refers to a lack of respect, reverence for God. It is the act of insulting or showing contempt for God. Trump's comment asking for more of that "good ole global warming" is blasphemy.

Now you're really out there.

[ZNPaaneah]

Originally Posted by Ohio

That's not true.

I thought we were talking about those who blasphemed God.



Now you're really out there.

If God is not responsible for Climate change then who is?

Clearly Trump's comment was sarcastic and disrespectful. Blasphemy.

[Ohio]

Originally Posted by ZNPaaneah

If God is not responsible for Climate change then who is?

Clearly Trump's comment was sarcastic and disrespectful. Blasphemy.

Trump's comments were only "sarcastic and disrespectful" to those in Al Gore's Climate Cult who hate him.

But "Blasphemy?" Little harsh don't you think? Maybe this cold weather is getting to you. Perhaps you should take a break, and enjoy your vacation. If not, awareness will lower the boom on you for being a rabid "fundamentalist" who runs around yelling "blasphemer."

[ZNPaaneah]

Originally Posted by Ohio

Trump's comments were only "sarcastic and disrespectful" to those in Al Gore's Climate Cult who hate him.

In the 1970s I was at Rice University, we had a professor who was going to Antarctica every summer to take readings. There were scientists examining the theory underpinning climate change. These people did not know Al Gore or Donald Trump. They did know the theory that the industrial revolution was burning fossil fuel and changing the atmosphere in the process.

Originally Posted by Ohio

But "Blasphemy?" Little harsh don't you think? Maybe this cold weather is getting to you. Perhaps you should take a break, and enjoy your vacation. If not, awareness will lower the boom on you for being a rabid "fundamentalist" who runs around yelling "blasphemer."

If you deny the scientists calling them a "cult", "atheists" and "agnostics" then you are making this all about God. You started down this path. If anyone is too harsh it is you in your denial of any and all who would raise an alarm.

[ZNPaaneah]

To summarize:

Revelation clearly describes a judgement of God on the Sun. He pours out a bowl on the Sun and as a result it can burn men with fire and great heat.

My interpretation is that there is a definite order --

1. God speaks a word

2. Man disobeys that word

3. God judges Man

4. Man either repents as King David did, or he blasphemes as those in Revelation do.

Ohio, Awareness and I all agree that God judges the sun. The issue is in points 1 and 2.

I argue that God spoke a word to us to "tend the garden" and to not "partake of the tree of the knowledge of Good and Evil". We disobeyed. That sin resulted in God's judgement.

If the past is any measure I would guess that Awareness sees this judgement by God as some kind of ancient mythology of a vengeful God.

Ohio has yet to tell us what the word was that God spoke that man subsequently disobeyed resulting in this judgement.