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[ZNPaaneah]

Originally Posted by zeek

People who lack faith need guns and walls.

This is a democracy, if 50% lack faith then they have the right to request a wall.

[zeek]

Originally Posted by ZNPaaneah

This is a democracy, if 50% lack faith then they have the right to request a wall.

Greater than 50% of the Electorate voted against Trump and his wall. According to a Fox news poll only 30% of Americans want Trump's wall.

[Ohio]

Originally Posted by zeek

Greater than 50% of the Electorate voted against Trump and his wall. According to a Fox news poll only 30% of Americans want Trump's wall.

And every single poll convinced us that Hilary would win.

Polls are like politicians. They always lie with their statistics.

[zeek]

Originally Posted by Ohio

And every single poll convinced us that Hilary would win.

Polls are like politicians. They always lie with their statistics.

The national polls weren't that far off — they predicted more people would vote for Clinton. That's what happened.

The election was so close that in pre-election polling only two States, Ohio and Wisconsin, were outside the margin of error. If you looked at the data instead of the hype, you knew that the election was too close to call.

Aren't you an engineer? You should get this stuff.

[Ohio]

Originally Posted by zeek

The national polls weren't that far off — they predicted more people would vote for Clinton. That's what happened.

You're a smart guy. Ever hear about electoral college? That's how we elect Presidents. To claim that Hilary got more votes is like claiming that the losing football team won the game because they got more yards. If yardage wins the game, then the game is radically different. For example, no team would ever punt.

Likewise, with the electoral college system, many conservatives in Blue states like NY, OR, WA, CA, VT, CT, NJ, etc. just don't vote for President. Why should they, because their vote is insignificant.

[ZNPaaneah]

Originally Posted by zeek

Greater than 50% of the Electorate voted against Trump and his wall. According to a Fox news poll only 30% of Americans want Trump's wall.

Good point, we aren't a democracy, we're a republic. It's all about the electoral college. These last comments from Trump are despicable as president of the US. I just cannot imagine the electorate not being energized over this.

Still, I blame the Democratic Party for his election due to their treatment of Bernie.

[Ohio]

Originally Posted by ZNPaaneah

Good point, we aren't a democracy, we're a republic. It's all about the electoral college. These last comments from Trump are despicable as president of the US. I just cannot imagine the electorate not being energized over this.

Still, I blame the Democratic Party for his election due to their treatment of Bernie.

All Presidents swear. Are you so naive? LBJ was famous for chewing out those who opposed.

America is so bored to death with this liberal fake outrage on the mainstream media. OMG Trump drinks 12 cokes a day. He must be a racist!

The Dems just screwed the Dreamers. The deal is off the table. Durbin chose their smear tactics over real people. So much for the "compassionate" progressives. They just got exposed like Hollywood.

[ZNPaaneah]

Originally Posted by Ohio

All Presidents swear. Are you so naive? LBJ was famous for chewing out those who opposed.

America is so bored to death with this liberal fake outrage on the mainstream media. OMG Trump drinks 12 cokes a day. He must be a racist!

The Dems just screwed the Dreamers. The deal is off the table. Durbin chose their smear tactics over real people. So much for the "compassionate" progressives. They just got exposed like Hollywood.

I am well aware of the language used by LBJ and Nixon. That is not my point.

My point is that the President of the US represents all of the people who are citizens. These comments of his were insulting to many American citizens.

The President also represents America to the rest of the world. What he said here is a shameful representation to the rest of the world.

As for "America being outraged" it may be that Trump was able to win by the slimmest of margins, but you should remember that this margin included many people who I expect have since reconsidered their decision to vote for him. We'll know for sure in a few months.

[Ohio]

Originally Posted by ZNPaaneah

I am well aware of the language used by LBJ and Nixon. That is not my point.

My point is that the President of the US represents all of the people who are citizens. These comments of his were insulting to many American citizens.

The President also represents America to the rest of the world. What he said here is a shameful representation to the rest of the world.

As for "America being outraged" it may be that Trump was able to win by the slimmest of margins, but you should remember that this margin included many people who I expect have since reconsidered their decision to vote for him. We'll know for sure in a few months.

He didn't insult any US citizens. Trump was in a closed door meeting trying to solve immigration problems. It was Dick Durbin who went public with this nonsense to score points with his base. The media has been smearing Trump to the rest the world for two years, just like they did Reagan and Bush.

Why is it that Pelosi can make comments about "5 white guys" and the media says nothing? She's not racist, and Trump is???

I have long been convinced that most Dems care nothing for minorities or immigrants. They simply use them as pawns to advance their agenda. They care nothing about the Dreamers, and never intended to pass laws. They actually want Trump to enforce our laws in March, exporting immigrants. These Dems are hypocrites. Go back and listen to what they said 10 years ago.

Congressman Smith (TX) said the same thing: "If the Democrats don’t want to negotiate, they’ll always come up with some excuse, and maybe this is an indication that they were never serious to begin with, but they’ll always come up with some reason not to negotiation, or make an excuse not to make concessions. This is just another distraction, another excuse for the Democrats to do that. I think when things settle down over the next several days we’ll find out whether the Democrats were really serious and want to have an immigration bill, want to try to something for some of the so-called DACA folks. We’ll know that in the next few days. It’ll be an indication of whether they’re negotiating in good faith whether they come back to the table."

[ZNPaaneah]

Originally Posted by Ohio

I have long been convinced that most Dems care nothing for minorities or immigrants. They simply use them as pawns to advance their agenda. They care nothing about the Dreamers, and never intended to pass laws. They actually want Trump to enforce our laws in March, exporting immigrants. These Dems are hypocrites. Go back and listen to what they said 10 years ago.

This has nothing to do with democrats. A high school teacher should be able to quote the president without getting fired. There are many teachers and administrators who have been fired for saying much less than what the President said. That is despicable.

[awareness]

Originally Posted by Ohio

All Presidents swear. Are you so naive? LBJ was famous for chewing out those who opposed.

But you'd be singing a different tune if Obama had said it. As you would if Obama went around daily bragging about himself, and inflating his crowds, so forth and so on.

It's not the expletive per say. It's the racist implications. Haitians are black, Norwegians are white.

Originally Posted by Ohio

America is so bored to death with this liberal fake outrage on the mainstream media.

Not your omniscience again. Not fair. We don't have that. We're clearly at a disadvantage.. Either that or you're parroting Hannity.

Originally Posted by Ohio

OMG Trump drinks 12 cokes a day. He must be a racist!

Don't make me Bahahaha, it'll upset bro zeek. 12 cokes equal racism. Bah ......

Originally Posted by Ohio

The Dems just screwed the Dreamers. The deal is off the table. Durbin chose their smear tactics over real people. So much for the "compassionate" progressives. They just got exposed like Hollywood.

And Trump called it a "bill of love" too. He can't be a racist. He loves those brown people. So much that he'll give up his wall for them. Stupid dem's.

[Ohio]

Originally Posted by awareness

But you'd be singing a different tune if Obama had said it. As you would if Obama went around daily bragging about himself, and inflating his crowds, so forth and so on.

That's not true. Said it a thousand times. Don't care what politicians say. Only care what they do.

Obama was a teleprompter orator protected by the Press. His gaffes rarely surfaced. The media hushed them all.

Originally Posted by awareness

It's not the expletive per say. It's the racist implications. Haitians are black, Norwegians are white.

Norwegians are "white" because they refused to join the EU. Sweden is no longer "white."

Haiti is a S******e because of their corrupt leaders installed by the Clintons, ask any of their people.

Remember: Trump is a "racist" because his parents came from Europe.

Unfortunately, you and I are "racists" too. We were born than way. Doesn't matter what we say or do.