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Trump must have known about his larcenies. Must be what he meant when he said he'd select the best people. The best at what?
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02-24-2018, 02:17 AM
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02-24-2018, 07:21 AM
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Records show that more than 1,300 Trump condominiums were bought not by people but by shell companies, and that the purchases were made without a mortgage, avoiding inquiries from lenders. Those two characteristics signal that a buyer may be laundering money https://www.buzzfeed.com/thomasfrank...q11#.wbmjQjXll
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02-24-2018, 07:38 AM
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The plea deal could be a sign that Mr. Gates plans to share incriminating information against Paul Manafort, the former Trump campaign chairman, or other members of the campaign.
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02-24-2018, 09:51 AM
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Since they continually claim that we have not seen any evidence of collusion between Trump and the Russians let's consider that.
1. We have seen evidence that the Russians meddled in the campaign. 2. We have seen evidence that this meddling was intended to help Trump win, at least from the time it was Clinton vs Trump. 3. We have seen 3 members of Trump's campaign, 2 from the inner circle plead guilty presumably as part of a deal with Mueller. That would indicate they had information that Mueller was willing to trade for. 4. We have seen evidence of high level meetings between Trump's campaign and the Russians. What we have not seen, but would like to see is a careful examination of Donald Trump's financial records, as well as his children and in-laws financial record. Instead of collusion, we may very well find a much more serious crime of money laundering, bribery and extortion.
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02-24-2018, 10:40 AM
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Everyone knows they meddle in our elections. Done so for since the 1920's. And we meddled in elections all over the world too. Obama meddled in Israel's recent election. "Meddling" obfuscates "collusion" for the ignorant. 2. We have seen evidence that this meddling was intended to help Trump win, at least from the time it was Clinton vs Trump. The Russians tried to help Bernie, Hilary, Jill Stein, Trump, and others. Their goal was to divide the country. They are still doing a great job of this, even though they spent fractions of a penny for every Hilary dollar. 3. We have seen 3 members of Trump's campaign, 2 from the inner circle plead guilty presumably as part of a deal with Mueller. That would indicate they had information that Mueller was willing to trade for. Flynn's crime, for one, was a "process crime," iow there was NO CRIME until Muller began investigating him (Strzok did so illegally too,) -- Just keep interrogating these folks until we can prove some sort of lie. 4. We have seen evidence of high level meetings between Trump's campaign and the Russians. How does this compare with Hilary paying millions for the Russian Dossier? Talk about meddling in an election! What we have not seen, but would like to see is a careful examination of Donald Trump's financial records, as well as his children and in-laws financial record. By golly, if we have to go back to the 1970's, we'll find a crime some where! Check his ex-wives! Check his neighbors! How about his deceased parents! Let's go back to the 10th generation! Instead of collusion, we may very well find a much more serious crime of money laundering, bribery and extortion. Ahhh! The real goal of the special prosecutor! What happened to the election results?
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02-26-2018, 03:18 PM
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In your neck of the woods bro Ohio :
Elementary school cancels classes after nearby church invites members to bring AR-15 rifles to a commitment ceremony because they believe it's the Bible's 'rod of iron' "World Peace and Unification Sanctuary in Newfoundland, Pennsylvania believes the AR-15 symbolizes the 'rod of iron' in the biblical book of Revelation, and it is encouraging couples to bring the weapons to a commitment ceremony." http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...15-rifles.html
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02-26-2018, 04:30 PM
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1. He has suggested arming teachers who used to be special forces and highly trained. I have no issue with that. However, I have known several hundred teachers and have yet to meet one who used to be special forces or highly trained. In fact the only two that even come close were a teacher who was a former police officer and a teacher in the coast guard. The former police officer was a woman, quite petite, and hadn't been in the police for over 10 years. The coast guard guy would be worse, his attendance was very poor, having been called out frequently. Therefore I find it completely unrealistic to think you would find 10 or 20% of teachers suitably trained. In my experience you would be lucky to find 1%. 2. He has suggested that the teachers with guns would be a secret. I find that to be a terrible and unrealistic idea. First, if I was one of these armed teachers (I have had experience firing a gun which probably puts me into the 20% group for NY) I would want to have frequent drills. We currently have fire drills and various drills for these kind of attacks. Every student in the school would learn who were the teachers with the guns. Second, I would hate to be "incognito" knowing that SWAT team was coming to take down a shooter. I would want a special jacket so that innocent kids could get out of the way and so SWAT team wouldn't shoot me. 3. How does this work? Do I guard a corner of the hallway or do I run to where I hear gunshots? It seems like a lose/lose to me. My school is on the third floor of our building, a different school is on each floor. If I hear shots downstairs and go downstairs only to have the shooter come upstairs and shoot up my hallway I would be blamed. If I stay upstairs while the shooter shoots up the school downstairs I would be blamed. 4. Where are you going to keep these guns? It is completely unrealistic to have your gun in a holster. Kids in high school do not give you space the way you might give a cop. The only thing that makes sense to me is to have them in safes in the hallway like fire extinguishers so that whoever is trained and available could quickly run to the safe and get it. Unless you can show me a working model of these safes that would make sense the whole plan seems idiotic. 5. Our building is 5 floors. You would need at least 4 people on each floor (at the four corners) and to be fair you probably want 8. To get 8 you probably need 12 who are trained (teachers are frequently out of the building at required trainings, etc). That is closer to 30% of our staff, not 20%. So then we are talking about 60 guns and 60 safes per school. Is this just some kind of marketing ploy? I assume the cost would be at least $20,000 per school, where does this money come from? Because to be honest I would much rather buy a class set of working laptops. 6. I was joking with my students today that if I was expected to shoot a kid with a machine gun in the midst of all the chaos I would have to practice shooting kids in more controlled situations first. But, joking aside, you can't expect this to work unless these teachers are given significant training, in the building, perhaps on Saturday's. That would involve per session for the teachers (60 of them) and for the cops who come in and set up the drill. A single Saturday could run the school $10,000 and you would definitely want to have a bare minimum of 2 drills per year like that.
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02-26-2018, 05:47 PM
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Had all this occurred in ZNP's school, he might have some different thoughts about Trump's plan to arm teachers.
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02-26-2018, 05:59 PM
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They can't have guns at home in NYC, so they play with them on vacation.
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