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[ZNPaaneah]

Originally Posted by zeek

"Trump is gearing America up for war." The only way to stop him may be to get him out of office. Yet Trump hasn't shown that he would be above starting a war just to stay in office.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/o...327-story.html

There is evidence that he would crash our stock market to make his friends rich, and that he would attack some of our best high tech companies as payback for them giving him negative reviews. But what is the evidence that he would start a war to stay in office?

[ZNPaaneah]

China imposing new tariffs on US meat, fruit, other products

I don't believe that China can sustain this. 800 million peasants are on a hand to mouth existence, raising the cost of food could be catastrophic. The other 200 million live from exports with the US being a major player in that.

As stupid as a trade war is, this may turn out to be a bold strategy to bring about better trade and foreign exchange deals with China.

[zeek]

Originally Posted by ZNPaaneah

There is evidence that he would crash our stock market to make his friends rich, and that he would attack some of our best high tech companies as payback for them giving him negative reviews. But what is the evidence that he would start a war to stay in office?

The article shows evidence Trump is already heading that way:

Upon taking office, [Trump] abandoned ...populist postures. Trump sent more troops to both Afghanistan, sustaining the United States' longest war into its 17th year, and Syria, with the Pentagon announcing that they would stay even after the Islamic State was defeated. He doubled down on U.S. support in Saudi Arabia's criminal assault on Yemen, while increasing the pace of drone bombings.

And now he has brought the most extreme and unreconstructed of hawks into the White House. New and more dangerous wars of aggression seem virtually inescapable. Bolton, supported by Defense Secretary Jim Mattis and Pompeo, will presumably push to tear up the Iran deal in May. An attack by Israel or the United States on Iran's nuclear facilities will be the likely result, as Bolton has urged in writing. Bolton, supported by Pompeo, likely will use unrealistic demands to blow up the North Korea talks. If Bolton succeeds, he'll push for far more than a "bloody nose" attack on Kim's regime.

Add to that Trump's unchecked ambition, unscrupulous tactics, lack of compassion, duplicitousness and cunning. He has as a model the recent fact of history that Dubya recently from unpopular to so popular that no one in Washington would oppose him publicly when he went to war with the middle east. All that is required is some trumped up act of provocation by North Korea or Iran. History is riddled with tyrants who use war as a strategy for staying in power. Seems it would be ideal for Trump to get us embroiled in a scary war this year before the midterm election so he can have maximal impact on the outcome.

[ZNPaaneah]

Originally Posted by zeek

The article shows evidence Trump is already heading that way:



Add to that Trump's unchecked ambition, unscrupulous tactics, lack of compassion, duplicitousness and cunning. He has as a model the recent fact of history that Dubya recently from unpopular to so popular that no one in Washington would oppose him publicly when he went to war with the middle east. All that is required is some trumped up act of provocation by North Korea or Iran. History is riddled with tyrants who use war as a strategy for staying in power. Seems it would be ideal for Trump to get us embroiled in a scary war this year before the midterm election so he can have maximal impact on the outcome.

So, in short, the concern is that his threat to rip up the Iran deal + Bolton, Pompeo and Mattis will support him in a war with Iran? Seems like fear mongering.

[zeek]

Originally Posted by ZNPaaneah

So, in short, the concern is that his threat to rip up the Iran deal + Bolton, Pompeo and Mattis will support him in a war with Iran? Seems like fear mongering.

We'll see.

[zeek]

Pastor claims it's not hypocrisy for Evangelical Christians to support Trump. It's theology. https://www.texasobserver.org/the-li...-donald-trump/

[zeek]

501 Days in Swampland
A constant drip of self-dealing. And this is just what we know so far …https://nymag.com/daily/intelligence...-timeline.html

[awareness]

Originally Posted by zeek

501 Days in Swampland
A constant drip of self-dealing. And this is just what we know so far …https://nymag.com/daily/intelligence...-timeline.html

The problem is that it was very obvious that Trump was a swamp animal before getting elected so we knew what we were getting ourselves into ... and still did it.