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ZNPaaneah · 04-10-2018, 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Ohio

How about something based on real life.

Lawyer convicted of racketeering in scam Florida 'charity' for veterans
(https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news...flna8C11381423)

2 Former Judges, Lawyer Convicted in Corruption Case
Courts: Three found guilty of mail fraud, conspiracy to commit racketeering. Attorney had showered San Diego jurists with gifts. They gave him special treatment.
October 19, 1996
(http://articles.latimes.com/1996-10-...orruption-case)

Ex-Bryan Cave Lawyer Convicted of Fraud in Maxim Deal Is Disbarred
Newkirk’s monthlong fraud trial in late 2015 drew headlines across a broad spectrum of New York press and many lawyers followed its twists and turns. (https://www.law.com/newyorklawjourna...20180310201815)

Ohio · 04-11-2018, 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by ZNPaaneah

Lawyer convicted of racketeering in scam Florida 'charity' for veterans

I didn't see where the Atty-client privilege was breached.

Anyways, not good for the US. Not good for the 4th Amend.

But all you Trump haters can rejoice. But don't blame him if things go bad.

ZNPaaneah · 04-11-2018, 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Ohio

I didn't see where the Atty-client privilege was breached.

Anyways, not good for the US. Not good for the 4th Amend.

But all you Trump haters can rejoice. But don't blame him if things go bad.

No one said that Attorney client privilege has been breached. He is not exempt from a search warrant by the FBI issued by a judge at the request of the Justice dept.

However, before the documents seized are used in a trial lawyers not part of the prosecution will examine and remove anything that would violate attorney privilege.

ZNPaaneah · 04-11-2018, 01:48 PM

(c) A lawyer may reveal client confidences and secrets, to the extent reasonably necessary:
(1) to prevent a criminal act that the lawyer reasonably believes is likely to result in death or substantial bodily harm absent disclosure of the client’s secrets or confidences by the lawyer; or
(2) to prevent the bribery or intimidation of witnesses, jurors, court officials, or other persons who are involved in proceedings before a tribunal if the lawyer reasonably believes that such acts are likely to result absent disclosure of the client’s confidences or secrets by the lawyer.
(d) When a client has used or is using a lawyer’s services to further a crime or fraud, the lawyer may reveal client confidences and secrets, to the extent reasonably necessary:
(1) to prevent the client from committing the crime or fraud if it is reasonably certain to result in substantial injury to the financial interests or property of another; or
(2) to prevent, mitigate or rectify substantial injury to the financial interests or property of another that is reasonably certain to result or has resulted from the client’s commission of the crime or fraud.

Trump's claim that the FBI act violates all that we stand for in the US is idiotic. His crying about Attorney client privilege is also idiotic. The FBI act doesn't violate any legitimate protection. Likewise, if fraud has been committed by Trump or Cohen that is not protected.

zeek · 04-12-2018, 06:26 AM

Self-draining the swamp...

"House Speaker Paul Ryan’s announcement Wednesday that he would not seek re-election adds a big name to what was already shaping up to be a near-record year of seat turnovers in the U.S. House of Representatives. More House members are choosing not to run for re-election to that body than at any time in the past quarter-century – including a record number of Republicans, according to a Pew Research Center analysis."

http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank...ction-in-2018/

ZNPaaneah · 04-12-2018, 06:21 PM

I think when it is all said and done Trump will wind up being the highest rated president in history, bar none. I don't mean that history will speak favorably of him, only that he will have dominated the ratings game like no other President. As they say, Politics is show business for ugly people.

zeek · 04-13-2018, 04:57 AM

"Decades before he led the F.B.I.’s investigation into whether members of Trump’s campaign colluded with Russia to influence the 2016 election, Comey was a career prosecutor who helped dismantle the Gambino crime family; and he doesn’t hesitate in these pages to draw a direct analogy between the Mafia bosses he helped pack off to prison years ago and the current occupant of the Oval Office."

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/12/b...39ries&ref=cta

04-11-2018, 01:48 PM	#4
ZNPaaneah Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 7,105	Re: Politics and the Church (c) A lawyer may reveal client confidences and secrets, to the extent reasonably necessary: (1) to prevent a criminal act that the lawyer reasonably believes is likely to result in death or substantial bodily harm absent disclosure of the client’s secrets or confidences by the lawyer; or (2) to prevent the bribery or intimidation of witnesses, jurors, court officials, or other persons who are involved in proceedings before a tribunal if the lawyer reasonably believes that such acts are likely to result absent disclosure of the client’s confidences or secrets by the lawyer. (d) When a client has used or is using a lawyer’s services to further a crime or fraud, the lawyer may reveal client confidences and secrets, to the extent reasonably necessary: (1) to prevent the client from committing the crime or fraud if it is reasonably certain to result in substantial injury to the financial interests or property of another; or (2) to prevent, mitigate or rectify substantial injury to the financial interests or property of another that is reasonably certain to result or has resulted from the client’s commission of the crime or fraud. Trump's claim that the FBI act violates all that we stand for in the US is idiotic. His crying about Attorney client privilege is also idiotic. The FBI act doesn't violate any legitimate protection. Likewise, if fraud has been committed by Trump or Cohen that is not protected. __________________ They shall live by every word that proceeds from the mouth of God

04-12-2018, 06:26 AM	#5
zeek Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Florida Posts: 4,223	Re: Politics and the Church Self-draining the swamp... "House Speaker Paul Ryan’s announcement Wednesday that he would not seek re-election adds a big name to what was already shaping up to be a near-record year of seat turnovers in the U.S. House of Representatives. More House members are choosing not to run for re-election to that body than at any time in the past quarter-century – including a record number of Republicans, according to a Pew Research Center analysis." http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank...ction-in-2018/ __________________ Ken Gemmer- Church in Detroit, Church in Fort Lauderdale, Church in Miami 1973-86

04-12-2018, 06:21 PM	#6
ZNPaaneah Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 7,105	Re: Politics and the Church I think when it is all said and done Trump will wind up being the highest rated president in history, bar none. I don't mean that history will speak favorably of him, only that he will have dominated the ratings game like no other President. As they say, Politics is show business for ugly people. __________________ They shall live by every word that proceeds from the mouth of God

04-13-2018, 04:57 AM	#7
zeek Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Florida Posts: 4,223	Re: Politics and the Church "Decades before he led the F.B.I.’s investigation into whether members of Trump’s campaign colluded with Russia to influence the 2016 election, Comey was a career prosecutor who helped dismantle the Gambino crime family; and he doesn’t hesitate in these pages to draw a direct analogy between the Mafia bosses he helped pack off to prison years ago and the current occupant of the Oval Office." https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/12/b...39ries&ref=cta __________________ Ken Gemmer- Church in Detroit, Church in Fort Lauderdale, Church in Miami 1973-86