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[Ohio]

Originally Posted by ZNPaaneah

I would say that this was Gregor Strasser's viewpoint. There were many in the movement that held this thought, but once Strasser was out it was no longer about a principle but about Hitler.



Really? This is when you became disconcerted? Not when the Senate shrugged off the Box 13 scandal with LBJ? Not when they covered up the JFK assassination? You weren't bothered when the OPEC was able to drive Carter out and replace him with Reagan and entire cadre of oil men? 911, a false flag attack designed to put our military in charge of the world's oil and gas supply and to force through massive funding to overhaul our military with drones and robots, that didn't bother you!

Saying that "Trump is a flawed man" is the most generous way of putting it. He is a child, he thought he was the big cheese but really he was simply a big fish for a small pond. He is completely and totally out of his depth and is overwhelmed by this job.



What alarms me is the extent to which supporters of Trump are willing to dismiss the cooler, wiser heads of those who are experts in their field and given their lives to US national security.

38% of Germans voted for Hitler at his best showing, roughly the same for Trump. I don't think this is a knock against Germans, rather I think this shows that those who are suffering the most in the midst of a great depression want change at any price and are willing to "burn down the establishment" to get it.

How dare Drake wade into the swamp here and introduce another perspective?

Doesn't he know our flawed POTUS is the reincarnation of Hitler?

I find it truly remarkable that someone could view 911 as a false flag, and not connect the dots here and see the deep state coup.

[ZNPaaneah]

Originally Posted by Ohio

How dare Drake wade into the swamp here and introduce another perspective?

Doesn't he know our flawed POTUS is the reincarnation of Hitler?

The term Hitler is extremely controversial because of how twisted and evil his regime became. But they didn't head down that fork in the road until they made the movement a full blown personality cult. I am not comparing Trump to the Hitler that ordered the holocaust. I am comparing him to the man who was a "genius" at propaganda, who was angry at the humiliating loss in WWI, who was essentially an idiot, who didn't care about policy, only grabbing power, and who clearly had serious issues with women and incest.

Originally Posted by Ohio

I find it truly remarkable that someone could view 911 as a false flag, and not connect the dots here and see the deep state coup.

I see a deep state coup that took place when JFK was assassinated. This also led to Nixon resigning (listen to the Nixon tapes -- he admits he couldn't put the blame on Hunt because of the "whole Bay of Pigs thing"). Nixon installs Ford, the guy from the Warren commission to take over as he leaves.

When I connect the dots I see the oil industry having a huge impact on our foreign policy and White House from the time they removed Carter. Prior to that they began to make major inroads into foreign policy with Halliburton and LBJ and they funded Nixon's campaigns discreetly.

What I am completely incapable of seeing hard as I try is Donald Trump coming to the rescue. What is he going to do, yell "urine trouble!" Should we start calling him Captain underpants? What we need is Teddy Roosevelt. Trump is something we accidentally stepped in and the sooner we scrape it off our shoe the better.

[Ohio]

Originally Posted by ZNPaaneah

The term Hitler is extremely controversial because of how twisted and evil his regime became. But they didn't head down that fork in the road until they made the movement a full blown personality cult. I am not comparing Trump to the Hitler that ordered the holocaust. I am comparing him to the man who was a "genius" at propaganda, who was angry at the humiliating loss in WWI, who was essentially an idiot, who didn't care about policy, only grabbing power, and who clearly had serious issues with women and incest.

I see a deep state coup that took place when JFK was assassinated. This also led to Nixon resigning (listen to the Nixon tapes -- he admits he couldn't put the blame on Hunt because of the "whole Bay of Pigs thing"). Nixon installs Ford, the guy from the Warren commission to take over as he leaves.

When I connect the dots I see the oil industry having a huge impact on our foreign policy and White House from the time they removed Carter. Prior to that they began to make major inroads into foreign policy with Halliburton and LBJ and they funded Nixon's campaigns discreetly.

What I am completely incapable of seeing hard as I try is Donald Trump coming to the rescue. What is he going to do, yell "urine trouble!" Should we start calling him Captain underpants? What we need is Teddy Roosevelt. Trump is something we accidentally stepped in and the sooner we scrape it off our shoe the better.

Even the great and honorable James Comey has declared the Dossier salacious and unverified, but since your reputable NY Times has published it, we now declare it to be historical "fact."

And your comparisons with Hitler are likewise "justified." (At least on Alt-Views where your audience is overwhelming supportive.)

And as if the waters needed further muddying, let's throw Dicky and Teddy in the midst.

But let me be excused while we return to our regularly scheduled programming.

[ZNPaaneah]

Originally Posted by Ohio

Even the great and honorable James Comey has declared the Dossier salacious and unverified, but since your reputable NY Times has published it, we now declare it to be historical "fact."

It doesn't matter. If there is no there there, then in the end it will be a major campaign issue to get Trump and his allies elected and reelected. They have had Cohen under surveillance for months, if there is nothing there then the FBI raid approved by NY State attorney General will be another big scandal Trump can trumpet.

On the flip side if by some chance there is something criminal on Cohen they have it still won't matter, he won't flip, since he has claimed "he would take a bullet for Trump".

And Trump's pardon of Libby for outing US intelligence officers, that is not a desperate attempt to signal to Manafort to stay strong cause he will pardon him, no that is the supremely confident middle finger to Comey.

Besides, firing Comey is not obstruction of justice, he could even fire Rosenstein and then Mueller. Unfortunately he can't fire the NY DA, which has a copy of whatever they needed to get the warrant on Cohen, nor will he be able to stop that investigation, or take all the information they have.

The good news for Trump is that "he has a different recollection" about what happened than Comey's account. There should be plenty of witnesses and tape recordings to verify that. Trump has them right where he wants them, all he needs to do is pull out the tapes that he and Cohen are so famous for, prove Comey is "lyin", that in turn proves his claim that this is a deep state set up, exposes the FBI, and will really help drain that swamp.

And that is the context of starting the war in Syria.

[Drake]

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ZNP> And that is the context of starting the war in Syria.

The beast gassed his own people including women and chidren. Do you think UK and France don’t know that too? Or are you suggesting it’s not a worthwhile fight?

Drake

[awareness]

Originally Posted by Drake

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ZNP> And that is the context of starting the war in Syria.

The beast gassed his own people including women and chidren. Do you think UK and France don’t know that too? Or are you suggesting it’s not a worthwhile fight?

Why is it our fight? Are we the police of the world? America is not innocent when it comes to chemical warfare. We looked the other way when Saddam gassed the Iranians. We even provided the gas.

[Drake]

Originally Posted by awareness

Why is it our fight? Are we the police of the world? America is not innocent when it comes to chemical warfare. We looked the other way when Saddam gassed the Iranians. We even provided the gas.

I believe it is important for several reasons.

It is our vital national interests to contain conflict.

It is our moral responsibility to reduce the capabilities of despots to commit atrocities. If he will gas his own people he will gas us.

It is in our interests to align with Gods interest concerning Israel.

Drake

[ZNPaaneah]

Originally Posted by Drake

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ZNP> And that is the context of starting the war in Syria.

The beast gassed his own people including women and chidren. Do you think UK and France don’t know that too? Or are you suggesting it’s not a worthwhile fight?

Drake

No. I am merely stating a fact, the context in which we are getting involved in this conflict is one in which our "leader" is highly compromised.

[Ohio]

Originally Posted by ZNPaaneah

And that is the context of starting the war in Syria.

Trump has been under attack since the day of his surprise election victory.

Every day in the news has brought new accusations.

Every action which Trump has taken to date could then be construed as a "wag the dog" mission to distract us from these "accusations."

ZNP, perhaps your comments here are just "senior moments." I understand!

[ZNPaaneah]

Originally Posted by Ohio

Trump has been under attack since the day of his surprise election victory.

Every day in the news has brought new accusations.

Every action which Trump has taken to date could then be construed as a "wag the dog" mission to distract us from these "accusations."

ZNP, perhaps your comments here are just "senior moments." I understand!

This is why it is a disaster to have someone leading this country with so much extra baggage. I am well aware of the fact that any President will come under political attack for the entire duration of their term. But the attacks on Trump have been multiplied greatly due to his own faults.

[Ohio]

Originally Posted by ZNPaaneah

This is why it is a disaster to have someone leading this country with so much extra baggage. I am well aware of the fact that any President will come under political attack for the entire duration of their term. But the attacks on Trump have been multiplied greatly due to his own faults.

No, this is why a fair and honest Press is so crucial to our republic.

[Ohio]

Originally Posted by ZNPaaneah

It doesn't matter. If there is no there there, then in the end it will be a major campaign issue to get Trump and his allies elected and reelected. They have had Cohen under surveillance for months, if there is nothing there then the FBI raid approved by NY State attorney General will be another big scandal Trump can trumpet.

Either wishful thinking or blissful ignorance.

The first target they took down was General Flynn. Never convicted of a crime. He was charged with lying to the FBI while not even under oath or represented by counsel. It is a process crime, in other words there was no crime until the FBI talked to him. Peter Strzok later reported that Flynn was being forthright and honest. Flynn pled out to save his family. What happened to this former general should scare all of us. (And where was the GoFundMe sympathy to pay his legal bills and loss of pension?)

Then the Muller attack team was launched, looking for a crime to impeach Trump. Forget about the Russian collusion, which was a farce known by all. Since then every person who ever knew Trump was officially "under surveillance" by Muller's team, Melania and Barron included.

I say let Muller impeach Trump. The House will flip in November and Pelosi will lick her chops. All current House investigations into real criminal activity will end. The House will eventually vote to impeach. The Senate, however, which needs 67 votes, will never indict. (Looks like Joe Manchin in WV might not even get reelected.) The whole charade will end like the Starr investigation.

[ZNPaaneah]

Originally Posted by Ohio

Either wishful thinking or blissful ignorance.

The first target they took down was General Flynn. Never convicted of a crime. He was charged with lying to the FBI while not even under oath or represented by counsel. It is a process crime, in other words there was no crime until the FBI talked to him. Peter Strzok later reported that Flynn was being forthright and honest. Flynn pled out to save his family. What happened to this former general should scare all of us. (And where was the GoFundMe sympathy to pay his legal bills and loss of pension?)

Then the Muller attack team was launched, looking for a crime to impeach Trump. Forget about the Russian collusion, which was a farce known by all. Since then every person who ever knew Trump was officially "under surveillance" by Muller's team, Melania and Barron included.

I say let Muller impeach Trump. The House will flip in November and Pelosi will lick her chops. All current House investigations into real criminal activity will end. The House will eventually vote to impeach. The Senate, however, which needs 67 votes, will never indict. (Looks like Joe Manchin in WV might not even get reelected.) The whole charade will end like the Starr investigation.

I will gather a pile of stones in the event your prophecy is not fulfilled.

[Ohio]

Originally Posted by ZNPaaneah

I will gather a pile of stones in the event your prophecy is not fulfilled.

I thought you liberals held the exclusive rights to tolerance and moral obligations?