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[Ohio]

Originally Posted by ZNPaaneah

Please provide your Bible prophecies to support your position, or is this just your opinion?

For example: "God is not mocked, whatever a man sows this shall he reap". We have sown war and destruction, we are also reaping this. We have sown rape and pillage, we are also reaping this. We have set up puppet dictators and wow, who would have thought that other countries would meddle in our elections to do the same to us. I do not see how any of this is "blessing Israel".

Who is the "WE" you are talking about?

What "man" are you referring to?

Is this how you interpret scripture?

[ZNPaaneah]

Originally Posted by Ohio

Who is the "WE" you are talking about?

What "man" are you referring to?

Is this how you interpret scripture?

What you sow is what you reap. That can refer to a person, or to a country. If the US fights a war, then everyone in the US is part of the "We". Some are soldiers, some are citizens who vote, many are taxpayers. In one way or another we are all accountable for the actions that "we" take.

37% of Germans voted for Hitler, therefore 63% did not. They are still accountable. It is quite obvious that the gas chambers were known by more Germans than just the SS, so not being the SS does not mean you were ignorant of this. However, undoubtedly many Germans were ignorant. In that case it is a "sin of ignorance". But every German adult during that time should feel some level of accountability. Likewise, much of the reason Hitler rose to power was due to unrighteous peace treaty, so those countries should also feel some accountability. They sowed an unrighteous treaty, they reaped WWII.

I did not vote for Trump, but he is still my president and I am still a US citizen and I am accountable for what the US and Trump do.

Contrast that with how Macarthur treated the Japanese after WWII. We sowed righteousness and we reaped a good ally for many decades to come.

[zeek]

"Fox News commentator Sean Hannity was revealed in federal court Monday to have been represented by President Donald Trump’s longtime personal lawyer, Michael Cohen, after a judge ordered the disclosure of a Cohen client who had wanted his identity hidden." https://www.wsj.com/articles/sean-ha...hen-1523908997 Isn't that sweet? Trump and Hannity are so close they even share an attorney. No wonder Hannity sounds like Trump's echo. "Sean the Pawn"-- I think they call him.

[ZNPaaneah]

Originally Posted by zeek

"Fox News commentator Sean Hannity was revealed in federal court Monday to have been represented by President Donald Trump’s longtime personal lawyer, Michael Cohen, after a judge ordered the disclosure of a Cohen client who had wanted his identity hidden." https://www.wsj.com/articles/sean-ha...hen-1523908997 Isn't that sweet? Trump and Hannity are so close they even share an attorney. No wonder Hannity sounds like Trump's echo. "Sean the Pawn"-- I think they call him.

Sweet, this proves Trump is correct when he talks about "fake news". It better be fake, he paid for it.

[zeek]

Originally Posted by ZNPaaneah

Sweet, this proves Trump is correct when he talks about "fake news". It better be fake, he paid for it.

If only the majority of Christian Evangelicals saw Trump as you do.

[ZNPaaneah]

Originally Posted by zeek

If only the majority of Christian Evangelicals saw Trump as you do.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fg1Ty8GvBI4

This video from an interview with NBC makes the position very clear.

1. They did not support Trump when their were a number of Republicans in the field.

2. When they were forced to choose between Trump and Clinton they chose Trump.

3. Trump has followed through with his promises that he made to the Evangelicals.

4. If the allegations of impropriety are proven true that is a problem. However, as long as this negative behavior from the past stays in the past they can forgive it.

I feel that this is a valid position for Christians to take. My reasons for not supporting Trump are based on my background with the LRC and my concern over how bad a bad government can become.

Many believe that what opened the door to Hitler to get power was not support for Hitler but rather a concerted effort to undermine democracy. There is no doubt that this is what we see today in the US, a concerted effort to undermine democracy.

"The Nazis were able to seize power because a shrewd leadership was able to mobilize three essential power resources: the activism and violence of Nazi militants (discussed in the previous chapter), the votes of one-third of the German electorate, and the ambivalence of German elites concerning Weimar democracy." Fascists, by Michael Mann

"Hitler entered German democratic politics with the explicit agenda of destroying democracy." Crapitalism, Michael Faust

[Ohio]

Originally Posted by ZNPaaneah

Many believe that what opened the door to Hitler to get power was not support for Hitler but rather a concerted effort to undermine democracy. There is no doubt that this is what we see today in the US, a concerted effort to undermine democracy.

There you go on Hitler again.

But many view the Obama/Clinton/Progressive agenda as a concerted effort to undermine democracy. This point you got right.

Look at Comey. He is typical of top appointments under Obama. Clapper, Brennan, McCabe, Rosenstein, Ohr, Lynch, etc. all working in concert to undermine a democratically elected President by manipulating the Press.

[zeek]

Originally Posted by ZNPaaneah

"Hitler entered German democratic politics with the explicit agenda of destroying democracy." Crapitalism, Michael Faust

Trump with his attacks on the freedom of the media and the independent judiciary appears to have an implicit agenda of destroying democracy. Of course, several posters here have denied that America is a democracy. So I suppose in their minds there's no democracy to destroy. The idea that the USA is a democratic republic is apparently to complicated for them. It has to be one or the other.

[awareness]

Originally Posted by zeek

"Fox News commentator Sean Hannity was revealed in federal court Monday to have been represented by President Donald Trump’s longtime personal lawyer, Michael Cohen, after a judge ordered the disclosure of a Cohen client who had wanted his identity hidden." https://www.wsj.com/articles/sean-ha...hen-1523908997 Isn't that sweet? Trump and Hannity are so close they even share an attorney. No wonder Hannity sounds like Trump's echo. "Sean the Pawn"-- I think they call him.

Cohen pays off on NDA's to keep sex partners quiet. Who has Hannity had secret sex with?

[ZNPaaneah]

Originally Posted by awareness

Cohen pays off on NDA's to keep sex partners quiet. Who has Hannity had secret sex with?

What are you saying? Hannity has completely and totally ripped this invasion of Lawyer Client privilege. Are you smearing his good name by saying he was unethically trying to hide the fact that he, as a journalist, should have disclosed his relationship with Cohen?!

[awareness]

Originally Posted by ZNPaaneah

What are you saying? Hannity has completely and totally ripped this invasion of Lawyer Client privilege. Are you smearing his good name by saying he was unethically trying to hide the fact that he, as a journalist, should have disclosed his relationship with Cohen?!

The sex thing was a joke. Cuz Cohen seems to be the sex hiding lawyer.

But Hannity has mentioned Cohen on his show a bunch of times. Don't you think he should have revealed his ties to Cohen?

I posit that he knew it would reveal a reason for his all in bias for Trump ; a personal interest ... or conflict of interest, rather.